Vikings running back Adrian Peterson indicted for child injury

[vader29]

Vikings running back Adrian Peterson has been indicted on charges of child injury in Texas.

According to MyFOXHouston, the charges are for "reckless or negligent injury to a child."

Child Protective Services confirms to TMZ they are working on a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy.

The Vikings released a statement saying they are "in the process of gathering information regarding the legal situation involving Adrian Peterson" and defer any questions to Peterson's attorney, Rusty Hardin, at this time.

Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that Peterson has been cooperating with investigators. Glazer adds that the indictment means Peterson will have to turn himself in, leaving his status for this weekend in jeopardy.

Read more: http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-child-injury-indictment

[stillers4me]

Sports Radio 610 in Houston obtained a draft of the police report which says Peterson admitted that he did, in his words, "whoop" one of his children last May while the boy was visiting him in Houston.

When the 4-year-old boy returned to Minnesota, his mother took him to a doctor. The police report said the boy told the doctor Peterson had hit him with a branch from a tree.

The doctor told investigators that the boy had a number of lacerations on his thighs, along with bruise-like marks on his lower back and buttocks and cuts on his hand.

The police report says the doctor described some of the marks as open wounds and termed it "child abuse." Another examiner agreed, calling the cuts "extensive."...........

..........When investigators questioned Peterson, they say he told them he regarded it as a normal spanking and not excessive. A grand jury seated earlier this summer decided not to charge him.........

Read more @ http://deadspin.com/report-adrian-peterson-indicted-in-child-injury-case-1634160368?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitte r&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[stillers4me]

Imagine how hard you have to hit a child a with a switch to draw blood. They used to call that flogging.

[stillers4me]

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[stillers4me]

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[ALLD]

That is at least one year. There is a line you don't cross. Some fathers get enjoyment out of beating their kids. They get off on it. Those fathers should be jailed for a very long time.

[stillers4me]

You know, I believe in disciplining children. I'm ok with spanking, even. I was spanked. When I got older, I learned to duck. My son got a few whoopin's back in the day. But those pictures weren't picture of spankings, they were beatings. And a strong man like a football player could easily get carried away....this child had blood and bruises........ what happens next time?

There are many on twitter that are defending AP.........saying that a man has the right to discipline their kids their own way. But this is just too far, IMO. I just had an exchange with Kelvin Beachum on twitter....and that was his opinion. He said that if his parents hadn't beaten him the police would have. I believe patents SHOULD discipline...and for the very reason he stated.....but come on!

[86WARD]

A kid deserves a "beating" but to a point. Drawing blood...over the line.

[stillers4me]

Didn't AP's 2 year old son die last year when the mother's boyfriend beat him to death??????

Seriously, Mr. Peterson...you actually thought it was ok to beat your 4 year child? I'm litertally sick to my stomach right now...

4:12 PM PT -- According to the police report, Peterson allegedly sent text messages to the child's mother saying he "felt bad" because he struck the kid in the testicles.

"Got him in the nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I'm all tearing that butt up when needed!" the text said.

Peterson allegedly sent a follow up text saying, "Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has he biggest heart but don't play no games when it comes to acting right."

4:10 PM PT -- According to the police report, the child told authorities he had also been hit by a belt and there were "a lot of belts in daddy's closet."

The child also said AP had put leaves in his mouth when he was being struck and that his pants were down.

3:50 PM PT -- The Vikings have deactivated Peterson for Sunday's game.

3:34 PM PT -- Peterson has issued a statement through his lawyer saying, "The charged conduct involves using a switch to spank his son."

"This indictment follows Adrian's full cooperation with authorities who have been looking into this matter. Adrian is a loving father who used his judgement as a parent to discipline his son."

"He used the same kind of discipline with his child that he experienced as a child growing up in East Texas. Adrian has never hidden from what happened."

"He has cooperated fully with authorities and voluntarily testified before the grand jury for several hours."

"Adrian will address the charges with the same respect and responsiveness he has brought to this inquiry from its beginning. It is important to remember that Adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional injury."

3:00 PM PT -- The police report on the case includes photos of cuts on the boy's thigh and hands. He also had bruises on his lower back and buttocks, and according to the report ... Peterson admitted punishing him.
One law enforcement source tells TMZ ... Peterson decided to discipline his son by grabbing a branch from a tree -- and then whipping the child on his bare skin. We're told several of the wounds were bleeding when the child went back to his mother.

2:31 PM PT -- The Vikings have issued a statement saying ... "The Vikings are in the process of gathering information regarding the legal situation involving Adrian Peterson."


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/#ixzz3D9KxWjfF



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[Count Steeler]

So Roger, how's that Shield holding up? Or do you need video evidence?

Given the current circumstances in the NFL, AP may have played his last game.

[stillers4me]

Kudos to the Vikings for deactivating AP immediately.

[86WARD]

Wow...that TMZ is fucking some shit up...lol.

[stillers4me]

Wow...that TMZ is fucking some shit up...lol.

They are really screwing with everybody's fantasy teams. :rant:

[86WARD]

I got nailed in one of my leagues on this Peterson one...but on the positive end with the Ray Rice one...lol.

[Count Steeler]

Shouldn't TMZ get a commission or finder's fee for bringing to light these NFLers that are tarnishing the Shield?

When is it going to hit the Steelers? Maybe there is a tape of Georgia.

[86WARD]

that would be a nightmare...

[fansince'76]

Kudos to the Vikings for deactivating AP immediately.

Agreed, especially seeing how he's pretty much their whole team.

Been a crappy last couple of months for the league.

[SteelerFanInStl]

I believe in punishing a child when they misbehave. I also believe in spanking. That's not punishment. That's child abuse, especially on a 4 year old.

It looks to me like he took his anger out on that child, which you should never do as a parent.

My opinion of AD has taken a big downturn.

[X-Terminator]

I was hit with switches when I was growing up. Those things hurt like a mutha, and they did leave welts. But not once did I get hit to the point where blood was drawn. So while I agree that a man has a right to discipline his kids however he sees fit, there is a line that should never be crossed. This crossed that line.

[GBMelBlount]

How sad.

[Shoes]

These morons who beat women and children should have to pull a tour of duty in Afghanistan.

[salamander]

So much for protecting the shield, eh Roger?

[stillers4me]

I was hit with switches when I was growing up. Those things hurt like a mutha, and they did leave welts. But not once did I get hit to the point where blood was drawn. So while I agree that a man has a right to discipline his kids however he sees fit, there is a line that should never be crossed. This crossed that line.

My mom and her brothers and sisters have always told stories of my granddad making them go out and pick their own switches.

It's one thing to spank a child with your hand, or paddle a couple of times like was done when I was in school. But this poor baby was repeatedly beat all over his body until he was bleeding. Maybe becoming a grandma was made me more mushy but this is just heartbreaking to me. Imagine how scared that little boy was. I'm sure AP loves his children, and he was disciplined this way himself. But if I were that mother, he'd never see that child again.

[86WARD]

Some football league's gonna have Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson...not terrible on field talent...lol.

[stillers4me]

When exactly did he "regret the unintended injuries"? I'm counting at least 10-12 times he hit that child and drew blood.....and that's just one leg. This is not "discipline". This baby is 4 years old.

[tube517]

Some football league's gonna have Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson...not terrible on field talent...lol.

The new USFL is starting up again.


EDIT: I guess not. Looks like they won't even start in 2015. LOL.

[ALLD]

A friend of mine had a father who was such a twisted, sadistic mothereffer than he fabricated his own behavioral modification devices. There was his famous cat-o-nine-tails which consisted of a piece of stained 1" dowel rod and razor cut suede leather top nailed to the rod. He proudly displayed it hanging on a nail in the living room and explained his power trip to all visitors. If you were good you got the leather and if you were bad you got beat with the rod. Another thing his parents would do when the kids misbehaved was take a butter knife full of Gulden's mustard, hold their mouths open and shove it down the back of their tongues. I can only imagine how traumatic that would be to a two or three you old child. Yet another method the father would do was force the kids to hold his work boots in front in the palms of their hands with stretched out arms while he ate breakfast. AP will most likely see jail time and 1 yr. suspension.

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Some football league's gonna have Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson...not terrible on field talent...lol.

Just think if Floyd Mayweather could throw passes and Mike Tyson could catch.

[Craic]

Disgusting. Parents used a switch from a willow tree on me. Hurt like a mother, but it never drew blood.

The only time I ever received corporeal punishment that wasn't appropriate was my fault. Father went to spank me on the rear with a belt and I slid down at the last moment and got it across the back. Needless to say, he stopped immediately and I spent the next ten minutes over my mother's lap with a cool towel on my back. He felt horrible.

That's the difference between someone in control of their anger using corporeal punishment and a mistake happening, and someone losing control and then feeling remorse.

[Butch]

I am with those who agree that you should discipline your kids, but there is a line that you shouldn't cross. A good swat or two on the bottom is usually enough, but like as also been said you need to remember as a parent your own strength and not let your anger get the best of you. That in itself is not always easy, but raising a kid brings with it a great responsibility.

If it is true that he was doing to his son what was done to him then I feel sorry for Adrian, he is human and made a mistake. As long as he is willing to admit he made a mistake and willing to get help for what he has done I see no reason to crucify him. I do however think he should pay a price for his mistake in the form of a suspension and fine, and I applaud the Vikings for their actions with the team superstar there are a lot of teams that wouldn't do that.

As for seeing his kids I would say he should be allowed to see his kids, but not unsupervised and only if he is truly remorseful.

[Vis]

"When I was about 20 years old, I met an old pastor’s wife who told me that when she was young and had her first child, she didn’t believe in striking children, although spanking kids with a switch pulled from a tree was standard punishment at the time. But one day, when her son was four or five, he did something that she felt warranted a spanking–the first in his life. She told him that he would have to go outside himself and find a switch for her to hit him with.

The boy was gone a long time. And when he came back in, he was crying. He said to her, “Mama, I couldn’t find a switch, but here’s a rock that you can throw at me.”

All of a sudden the mother understood how the situation felt from the child’s point of view: that if my mother wants to hurt me, then it makes no difference what she does it with; she might as well do it with a stone.

And the mother took the boy into her lap and they both cried. Then she laid the rock on a shelf in the kitchen to remind herself forever: never violence. And that is something I think everyone should keep in mind. Because if violence begins in the nursery one can raise children into violence.”
— Astrid Lindgren, author of Pippi Longstocking, 1978 Peace Prize Acceptance Speech

[Psycho Ward 86]

im a proponent in hitting your kids, but hitting them in the nuts and stuffing leaves in their mouth? Thats way overboard. Im sure AP just meant the best. As far as i can recall the guy has never been in trouble with the law in his life and there are never anything but raves about his character as a player and person.

[zulater]

Do we have to assume all those cuts and abrasions were from being whipped? Kids get cut up like that from normal play all the time. I know I did when I was young.

So we have a mother who doesn't live with Peterson. Maybe this is a money grab? He has other kids right? Any word on them being abused?


Look I'm not defending child abuse. I'm just saying maybe we should wait and hear both sides of the story before passing judgement.

A coached up kid could say a lot of things if his mom was putting it in his ear that this would help things out.


Look if Peterson doesn't dispute what's being reported then he's a scumbag. But I think we should at least wait and see what he has to say.

[86WARD]

Wasn't there Text Messages from Peterson admitting that he hit him and got him in the nuts once?

[zulater]

Wasn't there Text Messages from Peterson admitting that he hit him and got him in the nuts once?


So she says. But maybe it was something taken out of context and she ran with it?

Look I'm not saying I know. I also think the Vikings are handling this right. I just think we need to hear his side of the story before we go making any judgement's here.

[Dwinsgames]

I have been paddled . beat with a belt , switched with a hedge stick ( both sets of grandparents and my parents have done so when needed )

But NEVER once did I bleed from it ...

I got my ass tore up many times as a kid for misbehaving and I have spanked my kids ( I only used my hand ) but in all those spanking never anything other than a red ass that fades in an hour or so to nothing ....

THIS is WAY WAY over bored and a 4 year old should not need any sort of beating other than an " attention getter " smack on the ass and a stern word ...

I am not from the Dr. Phil school of child rearing by any means but anyone unable to control their spanking to the " necessary " amount and nothing more has no business spanking at all ....

this what I am seeing is child abuse not correction of a unruly child

[Dwinsgames]

Do we have to assume all those cuts and abrasions were from being whipped? Kids get cut up like that from normal play all the time. I know I did when I was young.

So we have a mother who doesn't live with Peterson. Maybe this is a money grab? He has other kids right? Any word on them being abused?


Look I'm not defending child abuse. I'm just saying maybe we should wait and hear both sides of the story before passing judgement.

A coached up kid could say a lot of things if his mom was putting it in his ear that this would help things out.


Look if Peterson doesn't dispute what's being reported then he's a scumbag. But I think we should at least wait and see what he has to say.

short of getting tangled up in a barb wire fence having a tough time thinking of any way he would get that many cuts in such a pattern all of what looks like came from the same time frame ....

I believe he was whipped with a switch with extreme force ....

now that being said I have no idea with any amount of certainty by whom .... that is where the legal process comes in

[86WARD]

So she says. But maybe it was something taken out of context and she ran with it?

Look I'm not saying I know. I also think the Vikings are handling this right. I just think we need to hear his side of the story before we go making any judgement's here.

I'm not saying you're wrong. It's a valid concern...

[X-Terminator]

So she says. But maybe it was something taken out of context and she ran with it?

Look I'm not saying I know. I also think the Vikings are handling this right. I just think we need to hear his side of the story before we go making any judgement's here.

Peterson turned himself in to the police, posted bail and was released. An innocent man does not do that.

[stillers4me]

He already admitted to doing it. He just doesn't get that he did anything wrong or out of the ordinary.

[ALLD]

The pictures will finish him. Massive beating and trauma will not positively change that child's behavior even if done once or a hundred times. It will cause emotional damage long after the cuts and bruises heal. Can't wait to see if anybody spins it like whipping a slave. Assault and battery on a child is not a simple fine.

[86WARD]

Peterson turned himself in to the police, posted bail and was released. An innocent man does not do that.

he might if his employer that pays him millions of dollars a year tells him to handle it or he's not getting paid...

[zulater]

Peterson turned himself in to the police, posted bail and was released. An innocent man does not do that.



Uh what? By law wasn't he compelled to do that? Still I think he's owed some presumption of innocence until he's tried. I understand he admitted to hitting the kid with a switch. But that doesn't mean he's admitting that he hurt the kid more than a normal spanking.

And no I don't have any fantasy team's this year, so that has nothing to do with it. I just want to hear his rationale and what exactly he is admitting to before I kill the guy.

[stillers4me]

The pictures will finish him. Massive beating and trauma will not positively change that child's behavior even if done once or a hundred times. It will cause emotional damage long after the cuts and bruises heal. Can't wait to see if anybody spins it like whipping a slave. Assault and battery on a child is not a simple fine.

If you or I went to the hospital or police station looking like that, yes, that's exactly what it would be. Assault and Battery. The fact that someone did this to a 4 year old child (a baby), does not turn it into "discipline".

I held my 2 year old and 5 year old grandbabies last night a little tighter with those pictures on my head. I would kill anybody that did that to them. And they are not always little angels. But their minds are innocent and the skin is tender. God help anybody that does that to them.

[Vis]

If you or I went to the hospital or police station looking like that, yes, that's exactly what it would be. Assault and Battery. The fact that someone did this to a 4 year old child (a baby), does not turn it into "discipline".

I held my 2 year old and 5 year old grandbabies last night a little tighter with those pictures on my head. I would kill anybody that did that to them. And they are not always little angels. But their minds are innocent and the skin is tender. God help anybody that does that to them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DULNyOHnjMA

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Uh what? By law wasn't he compelled to do that? Still I think he's owed some presumption of innocence until he's tried. I understand he admitted to hitting the kid with a switch. But that doesn't mean he's admitting that he hurt the kid more than a normal spanking.

And no I don't have any fantasy team's this year, so that has nothing to do with it. I just want to hear his rationale and what exactly he is admitting to before I kill the guy.


Who defines "normal" for hitting a 4 year old? Is it only by the size of the scars?

[X-Terminator]

Uh what? By law wasn't he compelled to do that? Still I think he's owed some presumption of innocence until he's tried. I understand he admitted to hitting the kid with a switch. But that doesn't mean he's admitting that he hurt the kid more than a normal spanking.

And no I don't have any fantasy team's this year, so that has nothing to do with it. I just want to hear his rationale and what exactly he is admitting to before I kill the guy.

No, he wasn't compelled to turn himself in. The fact that he did so means that the charges have validity, because he could have just as easily plead not guilty and fought it if he felt it was just a "normal spanking".

I am not some "Dr. Spock" hippie liberal. I believe spanking a child has a place and a purpose. I also believe that parents have the right to discipline their children as they see fit. But as I said, there are lines that should never, ever be crossed. From the evidence so far, Peterson most definitely did cross the line.

[Shoes]

"When I was about 20 years old, I met an old pastor’s wife who told me that when she was young and had her first child, she didn’t believe in striking children, although spanking kids with a switch pulled from a tree was standard punishment at the time. But one day, when her son was four or five, he did something that she felt warranted a spanking–the first in his life. She told him that he would have to go outside himself and find a switch for her to hit him with.

The boy was gone a long time. And when he came back in, he was crying. He said to her, “Mama, I couldn’t find a switch, but here’s a rock that you can throw at me.”

All of a sudden the mother understood how the situation felt from the child’s point of view: that if my mother wants to hurt me, then it makes no difference what she does it with; she might as well do it with a stone.

And the mother took the boy into her lap and they both cried. Then she laid the rock on a shelf in the kitchen to remind herself forever: never violence. And that is something I think everyone should keep in mind. Because if violence begins in the nursery one can raise children into violence.”
— Astrid Lindgren, author of Pippi Longstocking, 1978 Peace Prize Acceptance Speech



Astrid has a point, but children need to know limits before 4 & 5 years old. Like Dwins, my backside was on fire from grade 1 to 12, but never to the point of drawing blood. My second grade teacher would have been a good QB, she would fire the webster dictionary at me from about 20 feet….and hit the target most of the time. This was after morning Bible reading and prayer in public school. :chuckle:

I lived for many years about 5 minutes from Astrid Lindgren's small farm in Vimmerby, Sweden ( She also lived in Stockholm apartment for many years). Spanking children in Sweden has been against the law for many years and while some folks will still give a child a light hand to the bottom, most don't. Instead they try reasoning with a 2-3 year old to the absolute frustration of the parents and everyone around them. Discipline is a must but I don't believe beating a kid is.

My wife is two years younger than I at 58, and spanking children was permitted in Sweden when she grew up. Her mother kept a birch switch in the kitchen but never used it , nor did her father. So she was never spanked, but she says she drove her mother nuts. What i do find amazing tho is the results.

I can honestly say that in being married 34 + years to my wife, she has never once raised her voice in anger to me or anyone else, nor pursued and argument in a grudging manner. And I have given her multitudes of opportunities over the years. She always gives folks the benefit of the doubt. But it doesn't stop there, it was the same in my work place with management and workers, no one hollered, screamed, threatened and discussion was always encouraged.

Is this all because folks don't spank kids in Sweden, probably not. Some form of discipline is needed. But her upbringing without spanking has bore more fruit than mine with all the years of the stick. Surely something to think about.

[BigNastyDefense]

I was raised by parents and grandparents who spanked me. It was either their hands, a wooden paddle, or a belt. Never once was blood drawn, and the only times it was anywhere other than my behind was my fault for moving my hand there to block it or moving in one way or the other to get it on the legs or back.

I am not a father yet, but I still believe in spanking a kid if warranted. I've spanked my friend's kid when I have babysat for her. I am not saying spanking is going to fix every kid's behavior, it all depends on the kid...but I know that I didn't do whatever action got my spanked again. It also gave me a healthy respect for my parents and grandparents, because I knew when they told me to do something they were not screwing around.

What AP did crosses the line of spanking/punishment. That wasn't a spanking, that was a straight up beating. He's going to be suspended over this, and he's probably going to see some jail time.

What's sad for AP is this was likely how he was punished as a child, maybe he was beat with a switch until blood was drawn, which is why he didn't see a problem with it.

[Dwinsgames]

clearly A.P. comes from the Evander Hollyfield school of child rearing ...

I remember him saying he would get on a plane and leave training to go home and whip his child , stating he hit them hard because he did not intend to ever have to do it again for the same reason .....

[fansince'76]

So much for "doing the right thing." I guess Goodell got too much hate mail from pissed off fantasy football nerds this past week...

Vikings: Adrian Peterson will practice fully, expected to play Week 3 (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24710808/vikings-adrian-peterson-will-practice-fully-expected-to-play-week-3-)

[ALLD]

He will attract protestors outside and hecklers inside. Somebody will wear an AP shirt and beat a doll for the cameras.

[vader29]

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[vader29]

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[stillers4me]

How many baby mama's does he have???????????

[86WARD]

According to NFL Radio, Peterson admitted to hitting his kid...

[86WARD]

Peterson Being Investigated For Hitting And Scarring Another Kid (http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2014/09/15/minnesota-vikings-rb-adrian-peterson-being-investigated-for-possible-abuse-of-another-son/)

[zulater]

Peterson Being Investigated For Hitting And Scarring Another Kid (http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2014/09/15/minnesota-vikings-rb-adrian-peterson-being-investigated-for-possible-abuse-of-another-son/)

The more I hear of this the more it comes across Peterson is both stupid and a sadist towards his children. If all this turns out true this guy needs to be out of the league pronto.

[st33lersguy]

I used to like Adrian Peterson as a player, but after this my opinion of him is tanking

[fansince'76]

http://i62.tinypic.com/1ypgls.jpg

This is SO wrong, but I still couldn't help laughing when I saw it. :lol:

[Dwinsgames]

this makes it all crystal clear for me .....

he did it ....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000395297/article/peterson-apologizes-says-hes-not-a-child-abuser



(http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000395297/article/peterson-apologizes-says-hes-not-a-child-abuser)My attorney has asked me not to discuss the facts of my pending case. I hope you can respect that request and help me honor it. I very much want the public to hear from me but I understand that it is not appropriate to talk about the facts in detail at this time. Nevertheless, I want everyone to understand how sorry I feel about the hurt I have brought to my child.

I never wanted to be a distraction to the Vikings (http://www.nfl.com/teams/minnesotavikings/profile?team=MIN) organization, the Minnesota community or to my teammates. I never imagined being in a position where the world is judging my parenting skills or calling me a child abuser because of the discipline I administered to my son.
I voluntarily appeared before the grand jury several weeks ago to answer any and all questions they had. Before my grand jury appearance, I was interviewed by two different police agencies without an attorney. In each of these interviews I have said the same thing, and that is that I never ever intended to harm my son. I will say the same thing once I have my day in court.

I have to live with the fact that when I disciplined my son the way I was disciplined as a child, I caused an injury that I never intended or thought would happen. I know that many people disagree with the way I disciplined my child. I also understand after meeting with a psychologist that there are other alternative ways of disciplining a child that may be more appropriate.
I have learned a lot and have had to reevaluate how I discipline my son going forward. But deep in my heart I have always believed I could have been one of those kids that was lost in the streets without the discipline instilled in me by my parents and other relatives. I have always believed that the way my parents disciplined me has a great deal to do with the success I have enjoyed as a man. I love my son and I will continue to become a better parent and learn from any mistakes I ever make.
I am not a perfect son. I am not a perfect husband. I am not a perfect parent, but I am, without a doubt, not a child abuser. I am someone that disciplined his child and did not intend to cause him any injury. No one can understand the hurt that I feel for my son and for the harm I caused him. My goal is always to teach my son right from wrong and that's what I tried to do that day.

I accept the fact that people feel very strongly about this issue and what they think about my conduct. Regardless of what others think, however, I love my son very much and I will continue to try to become a better father and person.

(http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000395297/article/peterson-apologizes-says-hes-not-a-child-abuser)

[Shoes]

Given the way NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell handled the Ray Rice (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4645/ray-rice) case, it’s almost impossible to trust Goodell to handle the Peterson case appropriately. Which is one reason that many are calling on the Vikings to take it upon themselves to bench Peterson. Something they’re refusing to do amid severe public pressure.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/16/minnesota-governor-calls-on-vikings-to-suspend-peterson/

[steelreserve]

I don't get why all of a sudden there's this huge amount of pressure on teams to bench/suspend players at the first accusation of doing something wrong. Since when is that a thing? If it turns out, for instance, that Ray McDonald is guilty of beating his girlfriend, I'd be the first in line to say I wouldn't want him on my team. But the truth is, I don't know shit about it, or about most criminal cases involving NFL players. You see about it on TV and the Internet, but the truth is you still know jack shit.

Basically, what I'm hearing from people everywhere is, "We won't accept anything other than an immediate rush to judgment based on TV and public relations."

Well, OK, but what if you were accused of, say, a DUI, and they told you, "You know what, the hell with holding a trial, we're going to have your case decided this afternoon by some football coach. And without any evidence, just what he saw on TV. You may or may not lose your job over this." How happy would that make you?

Yes, there's a balance between "due process" and "doing the right thing," but things have gotten ridiculous. People are calling for mob rule. Sad thing is, once again, Goodell basically established the precedent for this with his ready-fire-aim brand of justice in all the player discipline cases over the past several years, so it's not only OK in people's minds, it's expected. The Ray Rice case was unusual in that there was immediately video evidence available and came to a quick conclusion, not to mention the whole thing was conducted in public basically from the start. Now people expect everything to be like that. That's a dangerous, dangerous path.

[Dwinsgames]

I don't get why all of a sudden there's this huge amount of pressure on teams to bench/suspend players at the first accusation of doing something wrong. Since when is that a thing? If it turns out, for instance, that Ray McDonald is guilty of beating his girlfriend, I'd be the first in line to say I wouldn't want him on my team. But the truth is, I don't know shit about it, or about most criminal cases involving NFL players. You see about it on TV and the Internet, but the truth is you still know jack shit.

Basically, what I'm hearing from people everywhere is, "We won't accept anything other than an immediate rush to judgment based on TV and public relations."

Well, OK, but what if you were accused of, say, a DUI, and they told you, "You know what, the hell with holding a trial, we're going to have your case decided this afternoon by some football coach. And without any evidence, just what he saw on TV. You may or may not lose your job over this." How happy would that make you?

Yes, there's a balance between "due process" and "doing the right thing," but things have gotten ridiculous. People are calling for mob rule. Sad thing is, once again, Goodell basically established the precedent for this with his ready-fire-aim brand of justice in all the player discipline cases over the past several years, so it's not only OK in people's minds, it's expected. The Ray Rice case was unusual in that there was immediately video evidence available and came to a quick conclusion, not to mention the whole thing was conducted in public basically from the start. Now people expect everything to be like that. That's a dangerous, dangerous path.


he admitted it .... so at this point whats to prove ?

[Dwinsgames]

even the State Governor thinks he should be suspended http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000395749/article/minn-governor-believes-vikings-should-suspend-peterson

[smokin3000gt]

when I first heard about it I figured everyone was over reacting to him puttin' a spankin on his kid but after seeing the pics, it was definitely excessive

I'm curious to see what kind of response we get from rogey boy now.

[steelreserve]

he admitted it .... so at this point whats to prove ?


even the State Governor thinks he should be suspended http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000395749/article/minn-governor-believes-vikings-should-suspend-peterson


If you'll pardon my tone ... what the fuck does the governor have to do with any of this? Other than being one of the many, many vultures who have been piling on the outrage bandwagon recently in order to get some media exposure once they sensed public opinion going a certain direction. That's part of what bothers me about the media blitz that follows each one of these criminal cases; half the people are just coming in late with a strong condemnation to gain some notoriety for themselves.

Anyway, that aside - do I personally think what Peterson did was right? Probably not. Was it criminal? I can't pretend to say. Obviously he went overboard punishing his kid, and where people disagree is also what happens to make it crime or not, which is intent. Did he do it because he's some twisted sadist who likes beating up on powerless children just for the sake of beating them? Well, that's one possible explanation, albeit also the most extreme. Is it a sad case of not knowing where the line is? That's another possible explanation. Is it a one-off case of bad judgment or forgetting your own strength? That's another possibility. Do I have any idea which one it is? Well, I can speculate all I want, but I really couldn't say for sure unless I was Adrian Peterson. Somewhere, a bunch of people are about to spend a lot of time trying to figure that out for real, but really - no joke - if you're going by what you saw on TV or the Internet, you're still hip-shooting.

That's STILL not the part that gets me. THAT is the (rather insane) idea that's been in fashion lately, of omg, we HAVE to settle this RIGHTTHISVERYSECOND!!!!!! Seriously, people, you can relax; it'll still be there after the frenzy dies down. The guy's going to court, and there'll still be plenty of time to suspend him then, or release him, or whatever it is you want to happen. In the meantime, what people are saying is, "Let's have a hasty decision based on emotion - we DEMAND a knee-jerk!" No joke, that's ALL they're saying. Consistently making decisions that way is EXACTLY how you get it wrong and get yourself into a lot of trouble. Maybe it'll be this case, maybe it'll be a different case, but it's guaranteed to happen. That also happens to be one of the main reasons why the justice system moves deliberately and usually comes to a conclusion after the hype has died down. It's not flashy and it's not topical, but there's a reason. What if it comes out tomorrow that someone has an audio recording of the baby mama plotting out some elaborate blackmail scheme? Is that unlikely? Hell yes. Has even crazier shit happened ALL THE TIME? You bet your ass it has.

Bottom line, you can THINK you know all you want, but you just don't know. And I don't understand the rush. It's just saying, let's make a decision that on average is going to be far more inaccurate, but people are perfectly happy to do it. Not really getting that.

[86WARD]

Vikings announced this morning that Peterson is out until his legal issues are resolved.

[Edman]

The boy is only four years old. Adrian didn't need to beat him like that. There's nothing wrong with disciplining your child, but that was too much.

Just swat his ass and send him to his room. Or use a paddle. A paddle would get the point across far better. Those things HURT, and they only leave a (very) sore bottom that eventually goes away.

[86WARD]

Not really sure why they would've reinstated him on Monday...especially with the information that he admitted to doing it.

[tube517]

Panthers/Crybaby Jerry Richardson now saying they are "revisiting the Greg Hardy situation" in light of the Vikings/AP move. Circus.

[steelreserve]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-lKImWtmSU

[vader29]

http://i62.tinypic.com/23r75w4.jpg

[salamander]

The NFL is falling apart with all of this stuff.

[ALLD]

I could only watch 6 hours of afro circus. The NFL has taken a few steps backward. I am not going to force myself to watch a bad Steelers team and then sit through a bunch of zombie commercials to do it.

[Edman]

The NFL is falling apart with all of this stuff.

There comes a time in every professional league where it runs into a big problem and it's pedestal crumbles under the pressure. It looks like it's finally happening to the NFL.

MLB, NBA, NHL all had to face their own disasters that showed their arrogant owners that something was truly wrong. Those leagues thought they were invincible, and it all collapsed in no time flat.

It's not just the DV and Child Abuse Scandals. It's the dilution of quality in the play, too. It's all because of the "safety rules" ironically causing more injuries among players since they aren't in shape, the terrible policies, and the incompetence of Roger Goodell. Goodell took the most popular sports league in the country and drove it into the ground in no time flat. For the first time last night, I didn't even bother catching an NFL game. I opted for something else instead.