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fansince'76
01-24-2014, 12:20 AM
Super Bowl XLVIII is scheduled for Sunday, Feb. 2, but the NFL put contingency plans in place to play the game any time between Friday and Monday next weekend.

A storm of massive proportions would have to be in the forecast for the league to make those contingencies a reality.

"We are embracing the weather," commissioner Roger Goodell said Monday. "Football is played in the elements."

The current forecast for Super Bowl Sunday in East Rutherford, N.J. is for a high of 40 and 30 percent chance of rain or snow. Kickoff is scheduled for 6:25 p.m. ET.

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venom
01-24-2014, 06:55 AM
How about getting it out of here - dont want Seahawks fans walking around Times Square for a week

salamander
01-24-2014, 09:57 AM
How about getting it out of here - dont want Seahawks fans walking around Times Square for a week

I feel for you, friend. If any of them bother you just remind them of SB XL since they still have their panties in a bunch over it. :chuckle:

venom
01-24-2014, 10:02 AM
I will be wearing my varsity Steelers jacket all week due to I work 1 block from Times Square and thats where the " Super Bowl Blvd " will be taken place !!!

Dwinsgames
01-26-2014, 11:51 AM
this is what you get when you have a pussy running the league ... ohhh nooo's its cold outside we better not play football today ....

what the hell is he thinking , some fans pay 7 grand for a SB weekend , tickets , hotel / airfare , eats , some booze ..... this bozo wants have have the game in near perfect conditions so forget the fan that spent a good chunk of change to get there and delay it till he has no choice but to leave and waist all his coin ????

I am shocked this man has a job let alone one with such authority

Steelerette
01-26-2014, 12:03 PM
It's beyond absurd to have a superbowl in the north in an open air stadium. I mean 20F is probably nothing to football players once they get going, but the fans? People pay a lot of money, for many a once in a lifetime trip, to be exposed potentially to deadly outdoor conditions where they're stuck huddled in a little plastic chair for hours.

Part of me wants to laugh at all the corporates who will be stuck out in it. I don't begrudge the rich at all but I do hate the way they've turned the NFL into something that most people can't afford to take a family to go see. I guess it's driven by demand, why sell out a stadium for $200/ticket when you can sell it out for thousands/ticket? But surely the bottom is going to fall out of the Ponzi scheme sooner or later.

That's probably beside the point though. Financially it's going to hurt a lot of people who spent all that money for a once in a lifetime trip just to have the date changed or venue moved. And even if it isn't, it's going to be stressful for them knowing it could happen, and then having to sit outside in the coldest temperatures in years.

I get the sentimental value of SB in New York but it was just a dumb dumb decision from the get-go. What's next, Superbowl in London?

stillers4me
01-26-2014, 12:07 PM
They are recommending fans arrive 2 hours early due to the security precautions and long lines. That's 6-7 hours outside in what could very well be brutal winter weather.

Dwinsgames
01-26-2014, 12:10 PM
It's beyond absurd to have a superbowl in the north in an open air stadium. I mean 20F is probably nothing to football players once they get going, but the fans? People pay a lot of money, for many a once in a lifetime trip, to be exposed potentially to deadly outdoor conditions where they're stuck huddled in a little plastic chair for hours.

Part of me wants to laugh at all the corporates who will be stuck out in it. I don't begrudge the rich at all but I do hate the way they've turned the NFL into something that most people can't afford to take a family to go see. I guess it's driven by demand, why sell out a stadium for $200/ticket when you can sell it out for thousands/ticket? But surely the bottom is going to fall out of the Ponzi scheme sooner or later.

That's probably beside the point though. Financially it's going to hurt a lot of people who spent all that money for a once in a lifetime trip just to have the date changed or venue moved. And even if it isn't, it's going to be stressful for them knowing it could happen, and then having to sit outside in the coldest temperatures in years.

I get the sentimental value of SB in New York but it was just a dumb dumb decision from the get-go. What's next, Superbowl in London?

I have zero issue it being played in cold weather cities without a dome . in fact I prefer it , the elements are part of the game trying to minimize or eliminate it from the game it taking away from the game itself IMO ...

no it was not the SB not even a playoff game but images such as this is part of what makes football the sport it is to me

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/image.php?u=1145&dateline=1386700155

stillers4me
01-26-2014, 12:15 PM
I have zero issue it being played in cold weather cities without a dome . in fact I prefer it , the elements are part of the game trying to minimize or eliminate it from the game it taking away from the game itself IMO ...

no it was not the SB not even a playoff game but images such as this is part of what makes football the sport it is to me

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/image.php?u=1145&dateline=1386700155


I agree with you to a point. However, the elements in November/December can be quite different than the elements in February. Plus, I would prefer the biggest, most important game of the year be played in good elements. It's just better for the fans as well as the overall game. JMO

fansince'76
01-26-2014, 12:17 PM
Part of me wants to laugh at all the corporates who will be stuck out in it. I don't begrudge the rich at all but I do hate the way they've turned the NFL into something that most people can't afford to take a family to go see. I guess it's driven by demand, why sell out a stadium for $200/ticket when you can sell it out for thousands/ticket? But surely the bottom is going to fall out of the Ponzi scheme sooner or later.

It's already starting to go that way (http://nfl.si.com/2013/12/31/wild-card-weekend-tickets-bengals-colts-packers/). But yeah, let's expand the playoffs. :coffee:

Count Steeler
01-26-2014, 08:09 PM
Snowstorm today in Toronto. Could be real interesting next week in New York, given the way this winter has gone.

GoSlash27
01-26-2014, 08:24 PM
Blizzard conditions right now in Eastern Iowa. I hope this system moves slow *evil grin*
/20*F isn't what I'd call "potentially deadly", but YMMV.

smokin3000gt
01-26-2014, 09:48 PM
I think teams should have all weapons on the table for the biggest game of the year/their careers and not be limited to a run game because it's zero degrees outside.

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blackngldblood
01-27-2014, 12:29 AM
I have zero issue it being played in cold weather cities without a dome . in fact I prefer it , the elements are part of the game trying to minimize or eliminate it from the game it taking away from the game itself IMO ...

no it was not the SB not even a playoff game but images such as this is part of what makes football the sport it is to me

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/image.php?u=1145&dateline=1386700155

I'm with you DWins, always have been. The elements in the playoffs are what make them more exciting to me than the Super Bowl. What's better than a blizzard during championship Sunday? Not much.


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BnG_Hevn
01-27-2014, 12:44 PM
I think teams should have all weapons on the table for the biggest game of the year/their careers and not be limited to a run game because it's zero degrees outside.

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What if a team gets there with a killer defense and a running game? To dictate the game be played in "likable weather" is to put them at a disadvantage.

I say set the date and stick to it. IF a team is equipped, then fine. If not, then so be it.

As for the fans, I have NO sympathy. In fact, this may just weed out the "non-fans". I'd be willing to bet that this may happen due to the NFL not wanting X empty seats to be seen. You can sell the game out, but you can't force those ticket holders to show up.

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And by that, I mainly am referring to "corporate types" who get the tickets for free. Obviously if you pay $1000s out of pocket you will go, but the pansies who get a ticket for free may forego it.

smokin3000gt
01-27-2014, 01:31 PM
What if a team gets there with a killer defense and a running game? To dictate the game be played in "likable weather" is to put them at a disadvantage.

I say set the date and stick to it. IF a team is equipped, then fine. If not, then so be it.

As for the fans, I have NO sympathy. In fact, this may just weed out the "non-fans". I'd be willing to bet that this may happen due to the NFL not wanting X empty seats to be seen. You can sell the game out, but you can't force those ticket holders to show up.

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And by that, I mainly am referring to "corporate types" who get the tickets for free. Obviously if you pay $1000s out of pocket you will go, but the pansies who get a ticket for free may forego it.

What about if it's the Dolphins vs Packers? Zero degree temps are certainly a huge favor to a team they lives in and plays in ice year round. I think the SB should be neutral/level playing field and let the teams play without having to cut the playbook in half. I'd rather watch a good running team vs a good passing team then a good running team vs a struggling running team. I'm with you as far as setting a date and sticking to it, but it should be in decent (doesn't have to be perfect) weather, or a dome.

As far as the fans going, it's easy to say screw the fans while we sit at home watching it on the flat screen but if I was going to pay thousands of dollars to watch a once in a lifetime event, I want to enjoy it as much as possible and if I'm sitting through a blizzard and in 2 ft of snow, it's going to suck.

steelreserve
01-27-2014, 01:36 PM
And by that, I mainly am referring to "corporate types" who get the tickets for free. Obviously if you pay $1000s out of pocket you will go, but the pansies who get a ticket for free may forego it.

I still don't get this. Dealing with cold weather is not rocket science; you put on warm clothes. It's not like it's going to be a big surprise to anyone if it snows and people are just going to go "Oh, shit, where did this come from; I'm not going to the game unless it's 70 degrees." People have been talking about that possibility for years.

I mean, if this is some chip-on-your-shoulder thing about rich people, I guess I understand, but that's really making a lot of assumptions that are, to put it mildly, a huge stretch.

Dwinsgames
01-27-2014, 09:59 PM
What about if it's the Dolphins vs Packers? Zero degree temps are certainly a huge favor to a team they lives in and plays in ice year round. I think the SB should be neutral/level playing field and let the teams play without having to cut the playbook in half. I'd rather watch a good running team vs a good passing team then a good running team vs a struggling running team. I'm with you as far as setting a date and sticking to it, but it should be in decent (doesn't have to be perfect) weather, or a dome.

As far as the fans going, it's easy to say screw the fans while we sit at home watching it on the flat screen but if I was going to pay thousands of dollars to watch a once in a lifetime event, I want to enjoy it as much as possible and if I'm sitting through a blizzard and in 2 ft of snow, it's going to suck.


the weather didn't seem to hurt the dogfins in Pittsburgh in a snow storm any ....

what people forget is just because a team is from a warm weather city does not mean its players are home grown , most have played in the cold and snow at some point , many have played in it most of their lives ...

Steelers draft a player born and raised in California and he is automatically a cold weather player ? I don't think so

its not like Seattle has yearly temps like southern california and being asked to play in nome alaska its 40 in Seattle right now ( warm compared to my house but you still need a coat outside ) and it gets plenty cold in Denver is at 16 right now ......

its not " the issue for the teams" its Goodell not wanting anything BUT a full house for the network to show the world

smokin3000gt
01-28-2014, 01:54 AM
the weather didn't seem to hurt the dogfins in Pittsburgh in a snow storm any ....

what people forget is just because a team is from a warm weather city does not mean its players are home grown , most have played in the cold and snow at some point , many have played in it most of their lives ...

Steelers draft a player born and raised in California and he is automatically a cold weather player ? I don't think so

its not like Seattle has yearly temps like southern california and being asked to play in nome alaska its 40 in Seattle right now ( warm compared to my house but you still need a coat outside ) and it gets plenty cold in Denver is at 16 right now ......

its not " the issue for the teams" its Goodell not wanting anything BUT a full house for the network to show the world


I knew that game was going to come up sooner or later but it still doesn't change my opinion. There is a big difference between playing in the snow at some point, and living in 95 degree temps year round then going to NY and playing in a blizzard. Most if not all of us expected to pound the fish because of the weather, and them beating us was an upset. The freezing cold limits the game/playbook. I don't think anyone can deny that. Would anyone want to watch the Indy 500 if the track was iced over and everyone had to reduce speed to < 60 mph? I don't think so...

BnG_Hevn
01-28-2014, 01:01 PM
I still don't get this. Dealing with cold weather is not rocket science; you put on warm clothes. It's not like it's going to be a big surprise to anyone if it snows and people are just going to go "Oh, shit, where did this come from; I'm not going to the game unless it's 70 degrees." People have been talking about that possibility for years.

I mean, if this is some chip-on-your-shoulder thing about rich people, I guess I understand, but that's really making a lot of assumptions that are, to put it mildly, a huge stretch.

lol, chip-on-your-shoulder-rich-thing? That's funny.

The majority of the people who get those tickets aren't rich to begin with, they just get them from their companies. My point was to people who don't go to games and only go to the SB for a status type reason.

Dwinsgames
01-28-2014, 01:47 PM
I knew that game was going to come up sooner or later but it still doesn't change my opinion. There is a big difference between playing in the snow at some point, and living in 95 degree temps year round then going to NY and playing in a blizzard. Most if not all of us expected to pound the fish because of the weather, and them beating us was an upset. The freezing cold limits the game/playbook. I don't think anyone can deny that. Would anyone want to watch the Indy 500 if the track was iced over and everyone had to reduce speed to < 60 mph? I don't think so...

at the end of the day bad elements favor a def minded team , as it also favors a cold weather team to some degree ( albeit not all cold weather players ) ..So out of this I get Advantage Seatver /Denattle ( Seattle for being the more defensive unit , Denver for being the more of a cold weather team considering what they endure in the Mile High city ....)

trust me this is all Goodell wanting to put on a show to the world with a full venue

steelreserve
01-28-2014, 02:41 PM
lol, chip-on-your-shoulder-rich-thing? That's funny.

The majority of the people who get those tickets aren't rich to begin with, they just get them from their companies. My point was to people who don't go to games and only go to the SB for a status type reason.


I'd say the majority of those people too, and for that matter about 95% of people in the entire country, can deal with being out in the cold for the length of a football game.

If your point is more that people go to the Super Bowl who aren't the normal fans, then yeah, that does kind of suck, but you see it in any sport. World Series are completely that way too, and on the couple occasions when I had NBA or NHL season tickets, you could actually witness the crowd shifting more and more that way each round of the playoffs, the closer it got to the championship.

Really - and I feel you 100% on this - the Super Bowl has been turned into such an overblown, half-infotainment-circus-mediaplex, half-Supermax-security-lockdown event, that it barely resembles something that would even be fun to go to anymore. I say screw it, let those people deal with all the bullshit; I'll have more fun anyway watching it at home while grilling burgers and drinking beer with my friends. It doesn't feel like I'm missing anything.