Whiz new head man in Tennessee

[KeiselPower99]

Whiz new man in Tennessee. Great hire

[Dwinsgames]

nobody beats the whiz ( inside joke from old board ) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000312900/article/ken-whisenhunt-accepts-job-as-tennessee-titans-coach

[NCSteeler]

Man I would not want that job over Detroit. I'm guessing they gave him full control over who the QB would be.

[fansince'76]

Gee, I wonder where Taylor, Keisel and Clark (and every single player we release over the next few years) are going to wind up? :scratchchin:

[tube517]

Gee, I wonder where Taylor, Keisel and Clark (and every single player we release over the next few years) are going to wind up? :scratchchin:

Peazy, Haggans, Faneca, Okobi, McFadden and Batch are already in Memphis.

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[st33lersguy]

Great hire by the Titans. They just increased their shot at a playoff berth

[GoSlash27]

And we get to play them this year. At Tennessee.

[vader29]

Wonder if the Steelers will allow him to interview Keith Butler for his defensive coordinator?

[Seven]

I'm not sure this is the best fit.

I like Whisenhunt as a coach, but I think he's much better at coaching quarterbacks who are already in place than he is at helping to evaluate and acquire new talent. See: Kevin Kolb, Derek Anderson, John Skelton, Max Hall, et cetera. Is either Jake Locker or Ryan Fitzpatrick talented enough to be his Kurt Warner/Philip Rivers? I'm not sure. I could see Whisenhunt convincing himself that one of those two guys is the answer only to realize two losing seasons and one lost job later he was wrong.

I wouldn't bet against him succeeding in Tennessee, but I wouldn't bet for it either. I think Detroit was a better situation for his coaching strengths.

[Spike]

I'd rather live in Nashville over Detroit too

[Dwinsgames]

I'm not sure this is the best fit.

I like Whisenhunt as a coach, but I think he's much better at coaching quarterbacks who are already in place than he is at helping to evaluate and acquire new talent. See: Kevin Kolb, Derek Anderson, John Skelton, Max Hall, et cetera. Is either Jake Locker or Ryan Fitzpatrick talented enough to be his Kurt Warner/Philip Rivers? I'm not sure. I could see Whisenhunt convincing himself that one of those two guys is the answer only to realize two losing seasons and one lost job later he was wrong.

I wouldn't bet against him succeeding in Tennessee, but I wouldn't bet for it either. I think Detroit was a better situation for his coaching strengths.


its hard to tell ...after all Kevin Kolb, Derek Anderson, John Skelton, Max Hall haven't exactly set the world on fire elsewhere either .....

Kolb the " best of the bunch " so most of the free world though couldn't stay healthy enough while eating a hamburger to finish his fries ...

that being said I am not sure he has anything more than a game manager to work with in Tennessee either ....

[Seven]

its hard to tell ...after all Kevin Kolb, Derek Anderson, John Skelton, Max Hall haven't exactly set the world on fire elsewhere either .....

Kolb the " best of the bunch " so most of the free world though couldn't stay healthy enough while eating a hamburger to finish his fries ...

that being said I am not sure he has anything more than a game manager to work with in Tennessee either ....

Right, but you have to assume he helped Rod Graves bring in those quarterbacks, don't you? So the fact that they haven't set the world on fire since their days in Arizona is still a knock against Whisenhunt. I guess that was my larger point. If Locker or Fitzpatrick isn't the guy, I wouldn't be too excited about Whisenhunt's input on what quarterback of the future he wants.

I think Fitzpatrick could have some success under Whisenhunt. I don't see it with Locker.

[Dwinsgames]

Right, but you have to assume he helped Rod Graves bring in those quarterbacks, don't you? So the fact that they haven't set the world on fire since their days in Arizona is still a knock against Whisenhunt. I guess that was my larger point. If Locker or Fitzpatrick isn't the guy, I wouldn't be too excited about Whisenhunt's input on what quarterback of the future he wants.

I think Fitzpatrick could have some success under Whisenhunt. I don't see it with Locker.

true but they had basically no investment in any of them outside of Kolb , Hall was an UDFA , Skelton was like a 5th round pick if memory serves and Anderson was brought in as Vet presence because nobody else had any real experience but he was never intended to even vie for a starting job ...

so when looking at it in that manner and Believing they had a young future star in Kolb ( who would of could have known he would be so fragile ? ) its hard to blame Whiz for the lack of a QB when they where really fishing for depth with everyone but Kolb

[Seven]

true but they had basically no investment in any of them outside of Kolb , Hall was an UDFA , Skelton was like a 5th round pick if memory serves and Anderson was brought in as Vet presence because nobody else had any real experience but he was never intended to even vie for a starting job ...

so when looking at it in that manner and Believing they had a young future star in Kolb ( who would of could have known he would be so fragile ? ) its hard to blame Whiz for the lack of a QB when they where really fishing for depth with everyone but Kolb

Yeah, maybe. I just wonder if Kurt Warner wasn't sitting there in on the depth chart behind Matt Leinart, landing right in Whisenhunt's lap -- would Whiz even have the Titans job now? I think there's no doubt he's a great offensive coordinator, but some of the decisions he made in Arizona still leave me scratching my head. Remember when he was playing all of his quarterbacks situationally? Leinart/Warner arbitrarily, then Rattay in the red zone? What the hell was that about? And you can't forget the absolutely abysmal game plan he had against us in the Super Bowl. That paired with my questions about his talent evaluation... makes me wonder if bringing him in to lead a 7 - 9 club without a stud at the quarterback position is a good idea. We'll see, certainly his time in Arizona only provides us with a few years worth of a sample size of him as a head coach. I could see him turning that offense into a decent regular season squad under Ftizpatrick if that's the way they decide to go. I guess I would just hope he brings on an awesome defensive staff and I'd hope to luck out on a quarterback in the draft who can hopefully deliver more than Fitzpatrick or Locker will.

I like Whisenhunt, that's just how I see the situation based on what I've seen from him in the past. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

[Dwinsgames]

Yeah, maybe. I just wonder if Kurt Warner wasn't sitting there in on the depth chart behind Matt Leinart, landing right in Whisenhunt's lap -- would Whiz even have the Titans job now? I think there's no doubt he's a great offensive coordinator, but some of the decisions he made in Arizona still leave me scratching my head. Remember when he was playing all of his quarterbacks situationally? Leinart/Warner arbitrarily, then Rattay in the red zone? What the hell was that about? And you can't forget the absolutely abysmal game plan he had against us in the Super Bowl. That paired with my questions about his talent evaluation... makes me wonder if bringing him in to lead a 7 - 9 club without a stud at the quarterback position is a good idea. We'll see, certainly his time in Arizona only provides us with a few years worth of a sample size of him as a head coach. I could see him turning that offense into a decent regular season squad under Ftizpatrick if that's the way they decide to go. I guess I would just hope he brings on an awesome defensive staff and I'd hope to luck out on a quarterback in the draft who can hopefully deliver more than Fitzpatrick or Locker will.

I like Whisenhunt, that's just how I see the situation based on what I've seen from him in the past. It'll be interesting to see what happens.


cant say I disagree with anything you said in this post ....

I wonder if he will try and pilfer Kieth Butler ?

[zulater]

And we get to play them this year. At Tennessee.

Good. Ben hates Whisenhunt's guts, and is 2-0 against him lifetime without benefit of a home game.

[Chidi29]

In a sense, surprised he passed over the Lions offer but then again, would you want to live and raise your family in Detroit? Decisions are bigger than football.

Yes Dwins, there are reports he would try to take Butler. Steelers could block if they wanted to. I think Whiz ends up with Ray Horton. His DC in Arizona and obviously were together in Pittsburgh.

[Edman]

Hm. Ken Whisenhunt is like Todd Haley, Dick Lebeau, and Norv Turner.

Great Coordinator but not very good head coaches. Who knows. Maybe he'll succeed there.

[fansince'76]

Yeah, maybe. I just wonder if Kurt Warner wasn't sitting there in on the depth chart behind Matt Leinart, landing right in Whisenhunt's lap -- would Whiz even have the Titans job now? I think there's no doubt he's a great offensive coordinator, but some of the decisions he made in Arizona still leave me scratching my head. Remember when he was playing all of his quarterbacks situationally? Leinart/Warner arbitrarily, then Rattay in the red zone? What the hell was that about? And you can't forget the absolutely abysmal game plan he had against us in the Super Bowl. That paired with my questions about his talent evaluation... makes me wonder if bringing him in to lead a 7 - 9 club without a stud at the quarterback position is a good idea. We'll see, certainly his time in Arizona only provides us with a few years worth of a sample size of him as a head coach. I could see him turning that offense into a decent regular season squad under Ftizpatrick if that's the way they decide to go. I guess I would just hope he brings on an awesome defensive staff and I'd hope to luck out on a quarterback in the draft who can hopefully deliver more than Fitzpatrick or Locker will.

I like Whisenhunt, that's just how I see the situation based on what I've seen from him in the past. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

Whisenhunt has shown roughly the same ability for managing QBs as his mentor Bill Cowher. In other words, none.

[fansince'76]

In a sense, surprised he passed over the Lions offer but then again, would you want to live and raise your family in Detroit? Decisions are bigger than football.

Compared to Detroit, Ann Arbor is like an entirely different planet and it is basically a suburb of Detroit. It is the epitome of the stereotypical idyllic college town. I visited there this past October for the first time on business (my company's headquarters is in Ann Arbor) and I was blown away by the contrast.

[Dwinsgames]

Yes Dwins, there are reports he would try to take Butler. Steelers could block if they wanted to. I think Whiz ends up with Ray Horton. His DC in Arizona and obviously were together in Pittsburgh.

Ya know I am shocked Horton is not somewhere already . kind of forgot about him when I was mentioning Butler ...your right he probably will bring him to Tenn, as he showed pretty good ability in Arizona for the short time he had to implement his system and he did well in Cleveland in yet another short term employment stop ...... the problem the Browns had was they could not score but they where in games to spite the lack of offensive production

[Chidi29]

Whiz could also be interested in Kirby Wilson as OC

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2014/01/steelers-kirby-wilson-candidate-titans-offensive-coordinator-job/

[Dwinsgames]

Whiz could also be interested in Kirby Wilson as OC

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2014/01/steelers-kirby-wilson-candidate-titans-offensive-coordinator-job/


fine by me , Wilson has been here a long time but if asked I would be hard pressed to name 1 rb we have been able to develop during his tenure from a ton of later round selections to fortify depth ( Willie Parker aside ) and Parker was not taught by Wilson ( Bettis mentored him as a RB and the rest of his game was speed and you cant teach speed ) and without speed Parker proved to be just another warm body ...

so in my mind that gives us a chance to get better in the teaching and development department

[XxKnightxX]

Good. Ben hates Whisenhunt's guts, and is 2-0 against him lifetime without benefit of a home game.

2-1


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