Bud Adams passes away

[Dwinsgames]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000267395/article/tennessee-titans-owner-bud-adams-passes-away-at-90

[venom]

Bum Phillips last week . That's 2 in the Old Houston Oilers days -- I would be scared to be Earl Campbelll or Dan Pastorini

[zulater]

It always bothered me that the league didn't make Adams leave the Oilers name, colors, and team history behind when he uprooted the team and took it to Tennessee. This move came after the Browns move to Baltimore, and no one could ever explain to me the difference.

[BigNastyDefense]

It always bothered me that the league didn't make Adams leave the Oilers name, colors, and team history behind when he uprooted the team and took it to Tennessee. This move came after the Browns move to Baltimore, and no one could ever explain to me the difference.

Browns fans were suing the league to be able to keep the name, colors, and history. I live in Cleveland, I remember that time.

And I think the reason the NFL and Art Model caved on it, is because Cleveland fans might have had a case. He was offered a new stadium by the city and county, however he turned it down. He (Model) wanted to keep old Cleveland Municipal Stadium, because he 100% owned it. He made all the money from ticket sales, concessions, rent (from the Indians when they played there, and from when the stadium was used for for other things). However, he wanted the city/county to pay for all repairs and remodels to the stadium. And the cost of that was going to be more than what it was going to cost to build a new one, so the city said no. They offered a split, where Model paid the city part of the money he made off of the stadium's use. Model refused.

Then he went crying wolf, saying that the city and county refused to build him a new stadium. That they refused to help fix up the old dump. He made himself out to be the victim. He even claimed the city forced him into buying the stadium, when he was told not to by many people and chose to do so against advice. However, he was never a man that came from money. He bought the Browns on credit, bought the stadium on credit, paid for stadium repairs on credit, and even paid parts of player salaries on credit. But somehow, according to him, that was all the fault of the City of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County.

The NFL almost took the Browns away from him multiple times because of money. He almost lost the Ravens because of it, hence why he sold half the team to Biscotti (or however to spell it), and then later the rest of it (to settle his debts).

So the Browns fans actually might have had a case if they took the NFL to court. That's why the NFL granted Cleveland the name, colors, and history and promised them a team in three years.

[zulater]

Browns fans were suing the league to be able to keep the name, colors, and history. I live in Cleveland, I remember that time.

And I think the reason the NFL and Art Model caved on it, is because Cleveland fans might have had a case. He was offered a new stadium by the city and county, however he turned it down. He (Model) wanted to keep old Cleveland Municipal Stadium, because he 100% owned it. He made all the money from ticket sales, concessions, rent (from the Indians when they played there, and from when the stadium was used for for other things). However, he wanted the city/county to pay for all repairs and remodels to the stadium. And the cost of that was going to be more than what it was going to cost to build a new one, so the city said no. They offered a split, where Model paid the city part of the money he made off of the stadium's use. Model refused.

Then he went crying wolf, saying that the city and county refused to build him a new stadium. That they refused to help fix up the old dump. He made himself out to be the victim. He even claimed the city forced him into buying the stadium, when he was told not to by many people and chose to do so against advice. However, he was never a man that came from money. He bought the Browns on credit, bought the stadium on credit, paid for stadium repairs on credit, and even paid parts of player salaries on credit. But somehow, according to him, that was all the fault of the City of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County.

The NFL almost took the Browns away from him multiple times because of money. He almost lost the Ravens because of it, hence why he sold half the team to Biscotti (or however to spell it), and then later the rest of it (to settle his debts).

So the Browns fans actually might have had a case if they took the NFL to court. That's why the NFL granted Cleveland the name, colors, and history and promised them a team in three years.

Good info. :applaudit: Still once the precedent was set the league should have made it mandatory that any team leaving it's city of origin or it had resided in for over a set period of time (say 25 years+) should be required to leave the team name colors and history in that city. As the owner you own the franchise, but you don't have the right to take the history from the fans. Besides tell me what new city doesn't want it's own identity?

[Godfather]

Browns fans were suing the league to be able to keep the name, colors, and history. I live in Cleveland, I remember that time.

And I think the reason the NFL and Art Model caved on it, is because Cleveland fans might have had a case. He was offered a new stadium by the city and county, however he turned it down. He (Model) wanted to keep old Cleveland Municipal Stadium, because he 100% owned it. He made all the money from ticket sales, concessions, rent (from the Indians when they played there, and from when the stadium was used for for other things). However, he wanted the city/county to pay for all repairs and remodels to the stadium. And the cost of that was going to be more than what it was going to cost to build a new one, so the city said no. They offered a split, where Model paid the city part of the money he made off of the stadium's use. Model refused.

Then he went crying wolf, saying that the city and county refused to build him a new stadium. That they refused to help fix up the old dump. He made himself out to be the victim. He even claimed the city forced him into buying the stadium, when he was told not to by many people and chose to do so against advice. However, he was never a man that came from money. He bought the Browns on credit, bought the stadium on credit, paid for stadium repairs on credit, and even paid parts of player salaries on credit. But somehow, according to him, that was all the fault of the City of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County.

The NFL almost took the Browns away from him multiple times because of money. He almost lost the Ravens because of it, hence why he sold half the team to Biscotti (or however to spell it), and then later the rest of it (to settle his debts).

So the Browns fans actually might have had a case if they took the NFL to court. That's why the NFL granted Cleveland the name, colors, and history and promised them a team in three years.

Cleveland had one other thing working for them: the support of Baltimore. Baltimore was sensitive to Cleveland's situation because of the Colts.