2013 Regular Season Thread

[Borski]

Pirates have been in sole possession of 1st place in all of MLB for 1 week straight so far

[Edman]

Taking the series from the Cubs will really make this team feel rolling again after the letdown series against Philly.

[Hindes204]

Soriano is having a damn field day out there

[X-Terminator]

Seriously, if the Pirates were going to play like this, they shouldn't have even bothered to show up to the ballpark today. Absolutely pathetic performance.

They'll be behind the Reds by the ASB.

[Chidi29]

On the plus side, four Pirates will be playing in the All-Star Game.

Grilli, Cutch, Alvarez, Locke all selected

[Hindes204]

More optimism from XT. I still say we win 58 by the break, and that'll be a hell of a record at the break. We have the best record in baseball....can't win every game

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7 games until the break. One more against the cubs and three to finish out against the Mets. I'm not worried.

[X-Terminator]

More optimism from XT. I still say we win 58 by the break, and that'll be a hell of a record at the break. We have the best record in baseball....can't win every game

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7 games until the break. One more against the cubs and three to finish out against the Mets. I'm not worried.

You're expecting them to go 6-1 in those 7 games? Are you forgetting that the A's are one of those teams?

They'll be lucky to win 3. Maybe. If the Mets' team bus breaks down.

[Hindes204]

You're expecting them to go 6-1 in those 7 games? Are you forgetting that the A's are one of those teams?

They'll be lucky to win 3. Maybe. If the Mets' team bus breaks down.

No, I'm saying its possible to go 5-2 in those 7 games (53 wins as of today). We can beat the Cubs tomorrow, take two (hopefully) from the As and two from the Mets.

We won 9 in a row, I expected a bit of a drop off. We have gone 2-3 since the winning streak, it's not like we've gone 0-5

[X-Terminator]

Believe it or not, I actually forgot about yesterday's win. That's how pissed off I am right now. They still won't win 5 of 7. More likely they win 2 of 7 and finish with 55 wins at the break.

[Hindes204]

Believe it or not, I actually forgot about yesterday's win. That's how pissed off I am right now. They still won't win 5 of 7. More likely they win 2 of 7 and finish with 55 wins at the break.

Thats what I don't get I guess, they have the best record in baseball more than halfway through the season. What atr you so pissed off about? We can't win every game, every series. What would make you happy? Are we supposed to have 70 wins by now or what?

[X-Terminator]

Thats what I don't get I guess, they have the best record in baseball more than halfway through the season. What atr you so pissed off about? We can't win every game, every series. What would make you happy? Are we supposed to have 70 wins by now or what?

The only thing that would make me happy is for them to not have a 3rd straight collapse into another losing season. The memory of the last 2 are still fresh in mind and it keeps me from feeling better about the team. That, on top of failing for a generation, makes it extremely difficult to get excited and instead I'm just waiting for the eventual crash and burn.

However, today's game pissed me off more than ever, because they showed no effort. I have no tolerance for that from anyone. Win or lose, at least play like you give a fuck.

[zulater]

The only thing that would make me happy is for them to not have a 3rd straight collapse into another losing season. The memory of the last 2 are still fresh in mind and it keeps me from feeling better about the team. That, on top of failing for a generation, makes it extremely difficult to get excited and instead I'm just waiting for the eventual crash and burn.

However, today's game pissed me off more than ever, because they showed no effort. I have no tolerance for that from anyone. Win or lose, at least play like you give a fuck.

How do you make that determination? Players will tell you that a lot of times when they're trying hardest they're doing the worst, and conversly when they're in the zone it all comes effortlessly.

I think they could add a bat to the lineup. But otherwise it's looks like it's a good team relative to the rest of the league. I expect they'll play about .520 to .550 the rest of the season and make the playoffs as a wildcard.

[Hindes204]

How do you make that determination? Players will tell you that a lot of times when they're trying hardest they're doing the worst, and conversly when they're in the zone it all comes effortlessly.

I think they could add a bat to the lineup. But otherwise it's looks like it's a good team relative to the rest of the league. I expect they'll play about .520 to .550 the rest of the season and make the playoffs as a wildcard.

One more bat would be nice, the offense needs a jump start. If we play .550 ball from here on out we finish 95-67. That should be damn close to being enough to take the division, and def enough to take a wild card spot. A lot depends on the 14 games we have left against St Louis.

i know I'm getting ahead of myself with talk of division titles and playoffs, but it's hard not to be optimistic. We hav the best record in baseball and arguably the best bullpen in baseball, how can I not be optimistic.

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[stillers4me]

Pittsburgh Pirates‏@Pirates1m (http://www.steelersuniverse.com/Pirates/status/353882915211452419)
The @Pirates (http://www.steelersuniverse.com/Pirates) have reinstated pitcher A.J. Burnett from the 15-day disabled list and have optioned pitcher Ryan Reid to Indianapolis.

[zulater]

One more bat would be nice, the offense needs a jump start. If we play .550 ball from here on out we finish 95-67. That should be damn close to being enough to take the division, and def enough to take a wild card spot. A lot depends on the 14 games we have left against St Louis.

i know I'm getting ahead of myself with talk of division titles and playoffs, but it's hard not to be optimistic. We hav the best record in baseball and arguably the best bullpen in baseball, how can I not be optimistic.

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Maybe if you hung out with XT for a while? http://campustocareer.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/eeyore.jpg

:wink02:

[X-Terminator]

One more bat would be nice, the offense needs a jump start. If we play .550 ball from here on out we finish 95-67. That should be damn close to being enough to take the division, and def enough to take a wild card spot. A lot depends on the 14 games we have left against St Louis.

i know I'm getting ahead of myself with talk of division titles and playoffs, but it's hard not to be optimistic. We hav the best record in baseball and arguably the best bullpen in baseball, how can I not be optimistic.

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I guess I can understand why, considering that the Pirates also have an 8.5 game lead in the wild-card standings. It would be difficult - though not impossible - for them to not at least win a wild-card berth. So they are in pretty good shape.

I'm going to try to be more positive about the team from now on, but understand that I'm still going to point out things they do that are of concern to me. And right now, the biggest concerns are the inconsistent offense and Jason Grilli having some really bad outings lately. I think they should try to upgrade both RF and get a late-inning bullpen arm to help out Grilli and Melancon.

[Hindes204]

AJ got out of a jam in the second. Offense needs to step it up

[X-Terminator]

Sorry, but I gotta say it. This team will be sunk unless they start picking up the offense, and for more than just a day or 2. It's getting beyond frustrating watching them waste at-bat after at-bat. They are the least clutch-hitting and the most undisciplined bunch of hitters I've ever seen. The pitching can only bail them out for so long.

[Hindes204]

Marte!!!!!!!!

[X-Terminator]

And yet, he's not going to the ASG while a guy who has only been in the league a month has a chance to go. If Puig didn't play in LA, no one would know who he was.

[Hindes204]

Shit.....not looking good

[Chidi29]

Not at all. Shocked if it doesn't end here, obviously

Cue a certain someone's doom and gloom posts...

[Hindes204]

2-5 since the winning streak....shit

[zulater]

Shit.....not looking good


It's just a little slump. It was bound to happen. Don't worry. They're legit. Not great, certainly not as good as their record was. But they're good. And they will start winning series again.

[X-Terminator]

Not at all. Shocked if it doesn't end here, obviously

Cue a certain someone's doom and gloom posts...

Only thing I'm going to say is that something needs to be done about the offense, and sooner rather than later. They are wasting too many opportunities to drive in runs and costing themselves wins. The thing is, they have talent, but have zero plate discipline and have bench players who are pretty much useless with a bat in their hands. Time to cut the dead weight and get some better hitters in this lineup.

[X-Terminator]

2-5 since the winning streak....shit

2-4, actually.

[Hindes204]

2-4, actually.

You are correct sir, I don't know what I was thinking. I just wrote 2-3 in a comment yesterday.....it's been a long day

[Chidi29]

Only thing I'm going to say is that something needs to be done about the offense, and sooner rather than later. They are wasting too many opportunities to drive in runs and costing themselves wins. The thing is, they have talent, but have zero plate discipline and have bench players who are pretty much useless with a bat in their hands. Time to cut the dead weight and get some better hitters in this lineup.

I do agree there. We've been living with the "clutch hit/timely hitting" mentality all year which is all well and good but not really sustainable. And we haven't come through in the last two series.

[steelerdude15]

I agree that the offense needs to start becoming more consistent. One game they'll have over ten hits and can help each other out by driving in runs, then the next game they could leave runner after runner stranded and keeping grounding out. It can be very frustrating to watch. Also, right field is the biggest area of need. Is it me or does it seem that Travis has gained weight and is even slower since he lost his starting job? Both him and Tabata are slow and can be a reliability when it comes to trying to catch a ball. They never can get to them and that is very frustrating to watch when you have Cutch and Marte running full speed and are catching them. One last note, I think A.J. should have had at least one rehab game. His command was off today and he struggled at times. I think one rehab game would have helped warm him up.

[Borski]

Team was bound to cool off a bit after that win steak but I was hoping to get at least 2 outta 3 against the cubbies. Anyways The way this team plays I wouldn't be surprised to see them turn it right around and take the series vs the A's

[Hindes204]

Damn, two stranded in the bottom of the seventh...down by one

[X-Terminator]

Bucs lose 2-1. Just one of those games where you have to tip your cap to the other team's starter. Colon pitched like an ace should.

Nothing else to do but try to get a win tomorrow.

[Nadroj 20]

Hell of a catch by Crisp in the bottom of the 7th. Saved the game for Oakland.

[X-Terminator]

Yeah, that too. Just a tough, hard-fought game where the A's got more breaks than the Bucs did. How many hard-hit balls did they have tonight that went right at an A's player? And they end up getting 2 runs set up by a wild pitch and a double-play that wasn't turned. One of those nights for the Bucs.

[Hindes204]

Yea, that's a loss I don't mind taking, we played well

[steelerdude15]

I hope the Pirates can snap this losing streak and get out of the slump there in.

[Hindes204]

Well.....shit

we need to start looking at some trade ideas to bring in some more bats. I'd like to see a Stanton in black and gold, but I'm not sure the Marlins will deal him. Plus, it would most likely cost us a lot in prospects to get him. Something needs to be done because 3 hits and one run ain't gonna beat anybody.

[steelerdude15]

Well.....shit

we need to start looking at some trade ideas to bring in some more bats. I'd like to see a Stanton in black and gold, but I'm not sure the Marlins will deal him. Plus, it would most likely cost us a lot in prospects to get him. Something needs to be done because 3 hits and one run ain't gonna beat anybody.

I agree. Our offense has gone completely cold and these team has become so predictable its not even funny. You just have that feeling they're going to do absolutely nothing. As of right now, the top four of our lineup is hitting while no one else is. I'm all up for a trade that wouldn't cause the Pirates to give up too much. I wouldn't mind cutting some of the dead weight at the big league level now.

[Chidi29]

Bats coming alive tonight. 3-0 Bucs in the third.

[Chidi29]

Four game skid over. Raise it! No problems for Liriano tonight.

[zulater]

Bucs lose 2-1. Just one of those games where you have to tip your cap to the other team's starter. Colon pitched like an ace should.

Nothing else to do but try to get a win tomorrow.


Colon is likely going to be suspended after the AS break for PED's. Too bad they couldn't have done it earliar before the bastard cheated us out of a win.

[X-Terminator]

Colon is likely going to be suspended after the AS break for PED's. Too bad they couldn't have done it earliar before the bastard cheated us out of a win.

Thought the same thing after I posted that story yesterday. Too bad they can't take the win away from him.

Anyway, tough series, but glad they salvaged one win and ended the losing skid. This one did not upset me hardly at all - the A's are a good team, Colon notwithstanding. No shame in dropping 2 of 3 to them. They still need to do something about the offense, though.

[Hindes204]

I agree XT, the As are one of the best teams in baseball, they played a tough series. Liriano had a great game, what a deal we got on him. Hopefully we can beat up on the Mets and finish strong before the break

[steelerdude15]

I agree XT, the As are one of the best teams in baseball, they played a tough series. Liriano had a great game, what a deal we got on him. Hopefully we can beat up on the Mets and finish strong before the break

I'm hoping for the same thing. I hope the Pirates can take two out of three.

[Boh]

I want to go to the All-Star game but i don't want to go to New York city. :(

fun season so far

Camden Yards is going to get it for 2016. 25th ann. season.

[Hindes204]

Just acquired Russ Canzler from the Orioles..................eh

[X-Terminator]

I want to go to the All-Star game but i don't want to go to New York city. http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.png

fun season so far

Camden Yards is going to get it for 2016. 25th ann. season.

Camden Yards is that old? Damn. It still looks good on TV.


Just acquired Russ Canzler from the Orioles..................eh

Apparently he can play OF and 2B, and crushes LHP. Had a decent average in the minors and hit .279 in limited ML action. Could be a replacement for the waste of space that is Brandon Inge.

[Boh]

Camden Yards is that old? Damn. It still looks good on TV.



Apparently he can play OF and 2B, and crushes LHP. Had a decent average in the minors and hit .279 in limited ML action. Could be a replacement for the waste of space that is Brandon Inge.



Yup! they added HD jumbotrons, ribbonboards. And last season they added a Bar deck ontop the batters eye in center field. Along with a restaurant and shopping inside the warehouse. place is immaculate.



we got Tim Alderson from you guys today, dont know much about him other than hes tall as shit.


7:44 edit : there goes #35 for Davis

[Chidi29]

Alderson was once considered a top prospect with the Giants. His numbers this year look pretty but his velocity inexplicably dropped a few years ago.

[oneforthetoe]

SAL bus trip to the game tomorrow night. Can't wait. Amazing how hard it was to sell the tickets. $50.00 for the bus ride, the ticket (with fire works) and a BBQ. I thought they would go quickly, but they didn't. I'm at break even point now at least. Looking forward to seeing Burnett pitch. Win tomorrow and they win the series before the break.That woyuld be a really good confidence builder for the second half.

[Boh]

Alderson was once considered a top prospect with the Giants. His numbers this year look pretty but his velocity inexplicably dropped a few years ago.

interesting.

going to the yard tonight. (standing room only ticket) maybe ill catch #36 :D

[Chidi29]

Buccos win again. 4-2 over the Mets. McCutchen 2-4 with a homer. Bullpen pitches 3 1/3 scoreless innings.

Also, check out this Twitter account!

https://twitter.com/Bob_Walk

[oneforthetoe]

Great game. It was hot as hell in the stands. Still well worth it, even though I can't believe I spent $11.00 on bottled water. Nice fireworks show as well. Can't wait to go again.

[KeiselPower99]

Canzier is a guy a lot of people like but has only got a shot in the show with Cleveland last year late. I think it was something like 23 games. Guy has some pop but for whatever reason never gets to show it above AAA.

[steelerdude15]

Pirates' Mark Melancon named to National League All-Star lineup

Mark Melancon was added to the National League All-Star Game roster, Major League Baseball announced Sunday.

Melancon, along with San Francisco closer Sergio Romo, will serve as a replacements for Jeff Locke and Jordan Zimmermann, who are both inactive due to injuries.

This is Melancon's first All-Star selection and for good reason. In 44 1/3 innings pitched, Melancon has only allowed four runs for an earned run average of 0.81. Melancon's previous best career ERA came in 2011 for the Houston Astros, when he finished the season with an ERA of 2.78.

Melancon has the second most strikeouts in the Pirates' bullpen this season with 46. His fellow All-Star Jason Grilli leads the bullpen with 63.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/pirates/pirates-mark-melancon-named-to-national-league-all-star-lineup-695437/#ixzz2Z3rfrE3b

Well deserved

[X-Terminator]

Pirates lose today but still take the series with the Mets. So they go into the break with 56 wins, the 2nd most at the ASB in franchise history. They now need to win just 26 of their final 69 games to finally end the streak, but I think they will do better than that. I'm looking at 86 wins and just missing the playoffs. They have a very tough schedule in the 2nd half of the season and think they'll play below .500 ball the rest of the way.

[steelerdude15]

Pirates lose today but still take the series with the Mets. So they go into the break with 56 wins, the 2nd most at the ASB in franchise history. They now need to win just 26 of their final 69 games to finally end the streak, but I think they will do better than that. I'm looking at 86 wins and just missing the playoffs. They have a very tough schedule in the 2nd half of the season and think they'll play below .500 ball the rest of the way.

If the Pirates won eighty-six games and missed the playoffs, I would be completely fine with that. We would finally have a winning season for the first time since 1992 and it would be another step in the right direction.

[Boh]

I remember years and years ago the Orioles winning something like 96 games and missed the playoffs because the yankees had 1 more win, lol.

halfway point. Pirates 56-37 O's 53-43


we should be in for a hell of a Home Run Derby tomorrow night!

[Chidi29]

I remember years and years ago the Orioles winning something like 96 games and missed the playoffs because the yankees had 1 more win, lol.

halfway point. Pirates 56-37 O's 53-43


we should be in for a hell of a Home Run Derby tomorrow night!

I'll state the obvious. Chris Davis is unreal right now.

[Boh]

might be the first one i watch and enjoy in a long time. hell of a lineup

Derby should be a good one.

Prince Fielder, Detroit Tigers
Yoenis Cespedes, Oakland A's
Robinson Cano, New York Yankees
Chris Davis, Baltimore Orioles
David Wright, New York Mets
Michael Cuddyer, Colorado Rockies
Pedro Alvarez, Pittsburgh Pirates
Bryce Harper, Washington Nationals

[X-Terminator]

I knew Cespedes had power, but damn! His showing was ridiculous!

Pedro didn't embarrass himself out there - 6 HR, one less than Cuddyer and one more than Fielder.

[zulater]

If the Pirates won eighty-six games and missed the playoffs, I would be completely fine with that. We would finally have a winning season for the first time since 1992 and it would be another step in the right direction.

I wouldn't. If you turned the season around and they won 51 games in the 2nd half after only winning 35 in the first half I would be estatic with it. But if you go 35-46 to end the season you're taking nothing positive into next season.

Despite their recent slump I'm still confident in a 93+ win season. The pitching and fielding is that good. And getting Walker back healthy in the 2nd half will help the offense. And think Jones will have a better second half.

Look around the league, there's no great teams. The Pirates will be fine.

[Nadroj 20]

I still worry about the division they are in. They can have a great season win wise but still come up short of the postseason because of how tough the division is. 1-3 are all well over 50 wins.

It could begin to separate as the year goes on though.

[Hindes204]

I still worry about the division they are in. They can have a great season win wise but still come up short of the postseason because of how tough the division is. 1-3 are all well over 50 wins.

It could begin to separate as the year goes on though.

We play St Louis 14 times after the break, that'll make a huge difference in the division

[Nadroj 20]

We play St Louis 14 times after the break, that'll make a huge difference in the division

Yeah that will make or break them.

[X-Terminator]

I still worry about the division they are in. They can have a great season win wise but still come up short of the postseason because of how tough the division is. 1-3 are all well over 50 wins.

It could begin to separate as the year goes on though.

The thing to pay attention to is the WC lead. They currently have a 9-game lead over the Dodgers in the WC standings. If they can simply maintain where they are - play .500 ball or better - they should easily claim one of the WC spots if they don't win the division. The reason why I see them falling back and not making it is because of the schedule. 14 games against the Cards, 9 vs the Reds, 6 vs. the Rockies, 4 each vs. the Nationals and Giants (don't count them out just yet), 3 each vs. Arizona and Texas, and 7 against a Padres team that has owned them over most of the past decade. So I see them going 30-39 and the D-backs beating them out for the final WC spot.

[Hindes204]

30-39?? No way, they're better than that. We will be in the 90s with wins and make the post season

[zulater]

30-39?? No way, they're better than that. We will be in the 90s with wins and make the post season

Yeah it's posible. But if it comes to pass this season means nothing to me. Because .500 means nothing to me. Sustaining some sort of consisteny, showing progress that translates into future success, that's what I'm looking for. So the bar was set too high by a 51 win first half that merely staggering to the finish a couple games over .500 is failure. Again if you turn it around and the first half of the season the Pirates were under .500 then they came on blazing to the wire and finish over .500 then yeah, it's a different outlook. But a 35 win secondl half looks to me like a team that's going into 2014 projecting to win 70 and lose 92. Fuck that. 90 is the new minimum benchmark for success for this season.

[X-Terminator]

35 wins gives them 91 total - 1 game over .500 the rest of the season. Seems to me that would meet your minimum benchmark for success. They do that, and they will likely make the playoffs.

I have said all along...just give me 82. Ending the losing season streak means more to me than making the playoffs. That would be icing on the cake.

[zulater]

35 wins gives them 91 total - 1 game over .500 the rest of the season. Seems to me that would meet your minimum benchmark for success. They do that, and they will likely make the playoffs.

I have said all along...just give me 82. Ending the losing season streak means more to me than making the playoffs. That would be icing on the cake.

The 35 wins I was citing were the 30 you forecast combined with the 5 wins they've already banked for the just started second half of the season. So yes 35 more from this point on would meet my standard for a successfull season. The 30 win-39 loss that you forecast would not.

[Hindes204]

Boom

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx181/hindes204/image-29.jpg

[X-Terminator]

Well, that's just wonderful. Now they get the SI jinx. :doh:

[salamander]

Oh boy....

[steelerdude15]

Well, that's just wonderful. Now they get the SI jinx. :doh:

I was thinking about that too.

[Hindes204]

Oh jeez...

you guys are ridiculous

[oneforthetoe]

Given the Pirates' recent history ...... I'm thinking the SI Jinx is going to take one look, turn around and run away in the opposite direction as fast as it can.

[X-Terminator]

Oh jeez...

you guys are ridiculous

So you're saying there's no such thing as the SI Jinx?

Actually, I'm concerned about all the media attention they are getting in general. I sincerely hope they do not allow it to go to their heads. They have a tough schedule in the 2nd half, and nothing less than their full focus will be required if they want to get to their goal.

[Hindes204]

Tough July ahead of us, ending with a 5 game series against the Cardinals. These next few weeks will make or break our season

[Hindes204]

Burnett got lit up in the first

[Hindes204]

At least we got 2 back thanks to a wild pitch and an error

[Edman]

Bucs lose 5-4.

Not a good start to this Second Half. This team really needs to show it's second gear.

[steelerdude15]

Our offense has become so frustrating and so boring its not even funny. How many times have we left runners stranded? Too many times and its getting old. On top of that, our bench is so awful. I really hope that management can start to cut some of the dead weight off this team and help out with our offense.

[Hindes204]

Where's chicken little?

[steelerdude15]

Where's chicken little?

What?

[Hindes204]

What?

Haha.......you need to read more books, lol

[salamander]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxcBmKUPs7rSrx5Q98tFrD6_1fg-QcE88q5_dw1OkQYFnybOhQ9g

Here you go. :chuckle:

[KeiselPower99]

What do yall think about the trade rumors for Alex Rios and Alexei Ramirez?

[steeldawg]

What do yall think about the trade rumors for Alex Rios and Alexei Ramirez?

Really? I didnt hear this but those are 2 nice bats to add to the lineup but I guess that depends who we are giving up.

[steelerdude15]

If you guys are implying that I believe the team is starting to collapse, then you're wrong. I'm just frustrated with our bats, as everyone should be

[Hindes204]

If you guys are implying that I believe the team is starting to collapse, then you're wrong. I'm just frustrated with our bats, as everyone should be
Wasn't directed at you, just a general statement.

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Locke is pitching well through 4

[Count Steeler]

What do yall think about the trade rumors for Alex Rios and Alexei Ramirez?

Haven't followed Rios since he left the Jays but he stunk out the joint pretty well. Never know what a change of scenery will do, but we were glad to see him leave Toronto.

[Hindes204]

Whew. That double play in the eighth helped tremendously. Bases loaded, no outs, 3 and 4 hitters on deck. Double play then a ground out, only one run scored. Great mental inning for Melancon

[vader29]

Haven't followed Rios since he left the Jays but he stunk out the joint pretty well. Never know what a change of scenery will do, but we were glad to see him leave Toronto.
They showed a play on the fox pregame show yesterday afternoon where he didn't hustle on a groundout that ended up being a double play that had he run it full speed he would have been safe and a run would have scored, manager benched him for that game and they also said it wasn't the first time he had issues with lackadaisical play.

[Count Steeler]

They showed a play on the fox pregame show yesterday afternoon where he didn't hustle on a groundout that ended up being a double play that had he run it full speed he would have been safe and a run would have scored, manager benched him for that game and they also said it wasn't the first time he had issues with lackadaisical play.

Yup, leopard hasn't changed his spots. Pass.

[steelerdude15]

Wasn't directed at you, just a general statement.

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Locke is pitching well through 4

Ah I see. Well, I am with you in that I am not giving up. On that note, good win by the Pirates today. It was nice to see Locke continue his winning ways and for the offense to get some work done. They escaped today with the victory, but I'll take it. Off to D.C.

[zulater]

Grilli might have just blown out his arm. Looked pretty bad.

[steelerdude15]

Grilli might have just blown out his arm. Looked pretty bad.

Yes it did...

[Hindes204]

Yea.....not good

[zulater]

Won the game but may have lost a huge cog in the machine. Hope grilli isn't as bad as it looked.

[Chidi29]

Oh man, that makes me sick to my stomach.

[X-Terminator]

Yea.....not good

So much for the SI Curse not really existing...

[oneforthetoe]

So much for the SI Curse not really existing...

The Pirates curse is far more powerful. They can survive a little while without Grilli, but if he is done for the season ....

[X-Terminator]

The Pirates curse is far more powerful. They can survive a little while without Grilli, but if he is done for the season ....

They can insert Melancon as the closer. He has done it before - saved 20 games for the Astros in 2010. But they will need to replace him, and that may be where the problem will be. Looks like the Bucs will be in the market for a back-end reliever.

[Chidi29]

They can insert Melancon as the closer. He has done it before - saved 20 games for the Astros in 2010. But they will need to replace him, and that may be where the problem will be. Looks like the Bucs will be in the market for a back-end reliever.

Justin Wilson would make a good set-up man.

Vic Black is at AAA and done an excellent job. 15 saves, striking out 48 in 34.

[oneforthetoe]

Yea, I agree .... I don't think they should pick anybody up unless it is for the cheap. BTW, do we have any report on Grilli? His reaction just doesn't give me confidence. He had the look of a man that knew something was terribly wrong.

[Chidi29]

Grilli placed on DL, Inge DFA'd.

http://www.pittsburghsportingnews.com/jason-grilli-placed-on-disabled-list/

[X-Terminator]

Grilli placed on DL, Inge DFA'd.

http://www.pittsburghsportingnews.com/jason-grilli-placed-on-disabled-list/

Victor Black has also been recalled. Good call on that one.

[Hindes204]

Vic Black is at AAA and done an excellent job. 15 saves, striking out 48 in 34.

Good call Chidi

[Chidi29]

Hurdle says no specific set up man, will wait and see.

[Hindes204]

Damn double play...I'll take a three run inning though

[KeiselPower99]

Whats up with the Nationals this year?

[Hindes204]

Cole has a .357 batting average................he's a pitcher

[zulater]

I'm not sure why he took Cole out? Only had a 92 pitch count. He looked really strong the last 3 innings.

and of course the reliever gives up a leadoff single. :frusty:

[Hindes204]

Granted, he doesn't have a whole lot of at bats, but still........he's a pitcher

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I'm not sure why he took Cole out? Only had a 92 pitch count. He looked really strong the last 3 innings.

and of course the reliever gives up a leadoff single. :frusty:

I was wondering the same thing, at least keep him in another inning to see if he struggles


shit.......single

[zulater]

Granted, he doesn't have a whole lot of at bats, but still........he's a pitcher

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I was wondering the same thing, at least keep him in another inning to see if he struggles


shit.......single

Even if ( when) Morris gets out of this inning unscathed, wouldn't it have been a good idea to preserve the bullpen? Who knows maybe the kid even gets a complete game? And with Grilli out, you're already down an arm so how does leaving Cole to at least start the 8th hurt you?

[Chidi29]

Even if ( when) Morris gets out of this inning unscathed, wouldn't it have been a good idea to preserve the bullpen? Who knows maybe the kid even gets a complete game? And with Grilli out, you're already down an arm so how does leaving Cole to at least start the 8th hurt you?

I'm just guessing but I think that's the MO. If the situation calls for it, put in the set up man in the 8th. Better to take Cole out too early than too late, I suppose too.

[Hindes204]

Morris got the job done in the 8th, he settles down after the single

[zulater]

20 games over .500. July collapse not happening.

[Hindes204]

Melancon, 7 pitches, game over...that works

[Hindes204]

BOOM!

Alvarez doin the damn thing!! 1-0 Buccos!!

[Chidi29]

Know I'm using hindsight here, but I would have taken Liriano out after 7.

[oneforthetoe]

Hold on here and we win the series. We need to beat up on struggling teams because we have a lot of tough series coming up.

[Chidi29]

Werth has our number this series.

[Hindes204]

Still a nice outing for Liriano. 2 hits, no earned runs. Plus, offense came on strong in the ninth, looks like we will sweep the series

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Well........shit

[Chidi29]

:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

[Hindes204]

Double play to end the game, that works. Nice sweep by the Buccos. Next up......wait, shit, this is a four game series.

[Edman]

Bucs join the 60 Club.

Unfortunately, there is another team with 60 right ahead of them.

The NL Central is a ridiculous division.

[X-Terminator]

Bucs join the 60 Club.

Unfortunately, there is another team with 60 right ahead of them.

The NL Central is a ridiculous division.

It's the best division in baseball. The AL East is the only one close.

[zulater]

Anyone got any suggestions for players the Pirates could possibly trade for that would strengthen their bid this year while not jeapordizing their future in what you give up?

Here's mine. Jason Bay. I know his BA is low, but his power numbers are good for the the number of AB's he has, and I think getting him back to PNC would get him out of his hitting doldrums somewhat.

[Borski]

I have no interest in J Bay coming back. I don't think we need to go after anyone big just someone to improve RF

[Hindes204]

Not interested in Bay either. I think we could get Alex Rios for a reasonable bargain. I would also like Nate Schierholtz, but think we would have to give up too much. We need help in RF, they have to address that by the deadline

[X-Terminator]

I say no to Jason Bay as well. If they go after a RH batter for RF, Rios is the guy. Problem is the Rangers are also interested in him, and that's going to drive up the price since they have such a deep farm system. So it looks like Schierholtz may be who they target, which ain't a bad option. I'd even talk to the Giants about Hunter Pence, because after being blown out by the Reds in their series, they're just about done and may be ready to sell.

[zulater]

A.J.'s got less than nothing today. Looks like the sweep isn't going to happen.

[X-Terminator]

I've already turned the game off. I don't mind if they lose a close game but play decently, but when they play like they don't give a fuck, well then they don't deserve any of my attention that day.

[zulater]

I've already turned the game off. I don't mind if they lose a close game but play decently, but when they play like they don't give a fuck, well then they don't deserve any of my attention that day.

I don't see that at all. They had some bad luck in the first inning and it snowballed into somewhat of a big inning. I think AJ might have lost focus or got down a little after the flukey HBP ( didn't hit Harper's body, hit his overly flared pant leg) then the error by Pedro when they had Harper in the run down.

Also in the Pirates half of the first Harper made a brilliant catch on Marte, if that ball falls in Pirates probably open up the scoring.

But regardless the only quit I'm seeing is from you XT. Still a lot of game left to play. Granted there's a good chance the Pirates will lose it. But they don't deserve fan derision or questioning of their attitude over what amounts to a bad start to a game..

[Hindes204]

I'm with Zu. A few great defensive plays screwed is over, and AJ didn't have luck on his side. 4-1 in the fifth, AJ is having a rough day...2 men on no outs

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Dammit, AJ hit another one. Bases loaded, no outs

[Hindes204]

Nice, escaped the inning unscathed. Two straight strikeouts and a groundout with the bases loaded

[zulater]

2 run knock by Harrison, Pirates right back in this thing. :tt02:

[Hindes204]

And just like that it's 4-3, right back in it

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Oh....Zu just said that, lol

[Edman]

Whats up with the Nationals this year?

Baseball is a fickle beast. It isn't like Football, Baseball or Hockey where a talented team can stay consistently good for years on end. One year you're on top of the world, the next year you're mediocre. Sometimes the magic happens and the next year it's gone.

[zulater]

AJ going to be tagged with another L despite pitching 7 strong innings after an erratic 1st. He deserved a better fate. Guess this just isn't his year.

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BTW today we saw the residual effect of losing Grilli.

[zulater]

60-40 one hundred games in. Who wouldn't have taken that at the beggining of April?

[Chidi29]

Not over yet! 7-5, runners on the corners with one down.

[zulater]

Not over yet! 7-5, runners on the corners with one down.

True, but if Grilli doesn't go down Wilson probably pitches the 8th and we don't go into the 9th in such a deep hole.

[Hindes204]

Bases loaded

[Chidi29]

True, but if Grilli doesn't go down Wilson probably pitches the 8th and we don't go into the 9th in such a deep hole.

Kinda hard to speculate that far, but no doubt, losing Grilli shakes the bullpen up.

[Hindes204]

Tie game!!!!!

shouldnt of turned it off XT

[Chidi29]

The most improbable of all Pirates, Josh Harrison ties the game!

Only had two hits coming into day and one RBI. Has two hits and 4 RBIs today.

[zulater]

Bottom of 9th tie game.

Be nice if Cutch could get his bat going in extra innings.

[zulater]

If nothing else I'm glad AJ is off the hook for the loss. He grinded it out and gave the Pirates a chance to get back in it despite a tough luck first.

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Oh well the punk won it for them.

[Hindes204]

Well....shit

[Chidi29]

Bleh. Fought hard though. Gotta give the team credit there.

[Hindes204]

Still a good game though, Took three out of four in the series

[X-Terminator]

Sorry, but they got exactly what they deserved. A big, fat L.

Next time, show up ready to play from the first pitch of the game. They get no credit from me for the comeback, and wouldn't have gotten it even if they had won.

[Edman]

The first inning did the Pirates in.

They already won the series, anyway. Would've been nice to Sweep, though.

[steelerdude15]

Just left the stadium and it is a really nice park. Anyways, great comeback by the Bucs. Too bad they couldn't pull off the sweep. If it wasn't for the first inning, they could have possibly won. Off to Miami.

[Hindes204]

They get no credit from me

Do they ever??

[X-Terminator]

Do they ever??

They do for the way they bounced back after 2 tough losses to the Reds last weekend. But today? Nope. They can redeem themselves by pounding the Marlins this weekend.

[Hindes204]

We could use a good series this weekend against a subpar opponent, get some good momentum going into the 5 game series against the cards

[zulater]

Do they ever??

Word has it the Pirates consider their first 100 games a total failure when they became aware that XT was unimpressed. :chuckle: :wink02:

[Chidi29]

Word has it the Pirates consider their first 100 games a total failure when they became aware that XT was unimpressed. :chuckle: :wink02:

He is the Bender of Pirate fans.

Something goes wrong?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_Doyh6q76M

[Hindes204]

Strained flexor tendon for Grilli...no surgery needed but early reports say he will be out 4-8 weeks

[X-Terminator]

That means his season's pretty much done. They should now be looking for another back-end reliever in a trade.

[Count Steeler]

Strained flexor tendon for Grilli...no surgery needed but early reports say he will be out 4-8 weeks

Damn friggin SI. No curse? NO Pittsburgh player, coach, or fan should allow themselves to be photographed for an SI cover. Unbelievable.

[Hindes204]

Damn friggin SI. No curse? NO Pittsburgh player, coach, or fan should allow themselves to be photographed for an SI cover. Unbelievable.

Confirmation bias. The curse notion is asinine. SI puts out 56 issues a year, odds are injuries are going to happen to one of the 56 to grace the cover

[Hindes204]

Nice throw by Marte, saved a run. Good job by Martin holding on to the ball too

[Edman]

Pirates O dies. 2-0 loss against the awful Marlins.

[Chidi29]

Pirates O dies. 2-0 loss against the awful Marlins.

Bleh. Ugly.

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Got any runs? Go Fish.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI

[X-Terminator]

They should be made to walk back to the fucking hotel. That was an absolute disgrace.

And they call themselves a good team? HA! Can't beat the fucking Marlins.

[Hindes204]

Well that was ugly

[X-Terminator]

Neal Huntington has 5 days to do something about this offense. If he sits on his hands and does nothing, or he brings in a pile of garbage like he did last year, I will be calling for his head. He CAN'T let this continue any longer. They are wasting too many good/great pitching performances and have already lost a bunch of winnable games since the end of the 9-game winning streak, because they can't fucking hit.

[Chidi29]

Neal Huntington has 5 days to do something about this offense. If he sits on his hands and does nothing, or he brings in a pile of garbage like he did last year, I will be calling for his head. He CAN'T let this continue any longer. They are wasting too many good/great pitching performances and have already lost a bunch of winnable games since the end of the 9-game winning streak, because they can't fucking hit.

Who do you want to see them get? Rios?

[X-Terminator]

Who do you want to see them get? Rios?

Rios, Schierholtz, Morales...hell, talk to the Giants about Hunter Pence since they're pretty much done. There's no need to do nothing when there are guys available for trade.

[steelerdude15]

You know, I'm starting to wonder about something. Could it be our new hitting coach, Jay Bell? I mean, the Pirates haven't been great or even as good as they were offensively last year.

[Count Steeler]

Rios, Schierholtz, Morales...hell, talk to the Giants about Hunter Pence since they're pretty much done. There's no need to do nothing when there are guys available for trade.

Blue Jays are done. Not sure who I would recommend though. Pretty bad season all around.

[X-Terminator]

You know, I'm starting to wonder about something. Could it be our new hitting coach, Jay Bell? I mean, the Pirates haven't been great or even as good as they were offensively last year.

They weren't very good offensively last year either, except for a 6-week stretch in June and July. Most of the season, they struggled mightily to score runs. So it ain't the hitting coach, it's the players themselves.


Blue Jays are done. Not sure who I would recommend though. Pretty bad season all around.

We'll take Jose Bautista back.

[Count Steeler]

We'll take Jose Bautista back.

Even he has had an off year. With all the "upgrades" over the off season, a leader did not emerge. They play with no urgency.

We have no middle. Our 2nd base has been crap all season. SS is OK with Reyes. Rasmus is OK. Arencebia needs to go back to school.

Oh well, let's go Bucs.

[Hindes204]

It's double mania out there tonight

[Chidi29]

Another bad inning defensively. Too many of those the second half of the year.

[Hindes204]

There's another double

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Another bad inning defensively. Too many of those the second half of the year.

Yea, pretty sloppy play tonight, we should be winning by much more

[oneforthetoe]

Fan on the first base side gets the play of the night.

[Hindes204]

Fan on the first base side gets the play of the night.

I have no visual, getting updates from my phone. I usually watch the game on my laptop, but I'm out tonight and I need flash player to watch. Damn iphone

[Chidi29]

I have no visual, getting updates from my phone. I usually watch the game on my laptop, but I'm out tonight and I need flash player to watch. Damn iphone

1B reached into the stands to make a catch. Fan kinda held him down and Walker was able to tag from second. Pretty funny.

[Hindes204]

Sloppy win. But a win is a win

[zulater]

Sloppy win. But a win is a win

Anytime you can win when you put your 5th starter out there it's a plus.

[KeiselPower99]

I read the other day that Huntington was looking into Pence but the price was too high. Plus the interest in Rios is cooling due to his lack of effort.

[X-Terminator]

I read the other day that Huntington was looking into Pence but the price was too high. Plus the interest in Rios is cooling due to his lack of effort.

Let me guess - they wanted Gregory Polanco. Um...NO! He was right to look elsewhere, though Pence would be a perfect fit. Too bad about Rios - he was a guy I would have liked to have. But I can't say I'm surprised after the way he dogged it a couple weeks back and didn't leg out a double play ball he could have easily beaten. Not a guy I'd want in the Pirates' clubhouse.

Nate Schierholtz is still out there. So is Norichika Aoki from the Brewers, but I'm sure they'll ask for the moon since they're a division rival.

[oneforthetoe]

Teams surely think they can hold the lowly Pirates for a ransom's share. I do think the Pirates probably need a right fielder to keep pace. However, if the price is too high, I'll respect Huntington for just saying no.

[Chidi29]

Fort with a big day. 4-5, 2 RBIs. Hope his knee is ok. Might see Sanchez get called up. He did just catch 10 innings tonight though in Indy so we have a tired bunch behind the plate. Ugh.

[Borski]

Teams surely think they can hold the lowly Pirates for a ransom's share. I do think the Pirates probably need a right fielder to keep pace. However, if the price is too high, I'll respect Huntington for just saying no.

I'd rather not make a big trade if it means we have to sell the farm, even if it helps us this year. We have enough talent in our farm to play at a high level for awhile. next year should only improve on what we accomplish this year assuming we don't give up all of our prospects to try and make a run for it this year.

[Chidi29]

Shameless plug to my recap of the game.

http://www.pittsburghsportingnews.com/mckenrys-career-day-lifts-pirates-over-marlins/

[Chidi29]

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[X-Terminator]

Teams surely think they can hold the lowly Pirates for a ransom's share. I do think the Pirates probably need a right fielder to keep pace. However, if the price is too high, I'll respect Huntington for just saying no.

There is still this sense that teams can exploit the Pirates after years of giving their best players away for crap. I would think after the last 2 years that sentiment would change, because NH has shown that he will not overpay for anyone. That should still not prevent him from making a good deal.


Shameless plug to my recap of the game.

http://www.pittsburghsportingnews.com/mckenrys-career-day-lifts-pirates-over-marlins/

Nice recap, Alex! I saw that play by McKenry where he dove behind Polanco to make that catch - he may have saved the game right there.

[Boh]

Ortiz expelling some anger on Camden Yards dugout phones last night...... dustin pedroia had pieces hit him and almost started a fight between the two players. Rubber game today.


http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/794564046.gif?1374976733

[vader29]

Ortiz expelling some anger on Camden Yards dugout phones last night...... dustin pedroia had pieces hit him and almost started a fight between the two players. Rubber game today.


http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/794564046.gif?1374976733
Wow, roid rage?

[X-Terminator]

It's not often you see Big Papi get pissed like that. He's usually a pretty mellow and laid-back guy. I would like to see him take on the little runt Pedroia though.

[steeldawg]

Lol my goodness.

[Chidi29]

Ortiz expelling some anger on Camden Yards dugout phones last night...... dustin pedroia had pieces hit him and almost started a fight between the two players. Rubber game today.


http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/794564046.gif?1374976733

Worst part? Boston is the visiting team.

I hope whoever is in Baltimore next brings a cell phone...

[X-Terminator]

Pirates about to lose 2 of 3 to the Marlins. THE MARLINS!

Absolutely pathetic.

I predict they lose 4 of 5 to the Cards and finally end all of this talk about playoffs and division titles once and for all. All Pirates fans need to hope for is 21 more wins. That's it.

[zulater]

Pirates about to lose 2 of 3 to the Marlins. THE MARLINS!

Absolutely pathetic.

I predict they lose 4 of 5 to the Cards and finally end all of this talk about playoffs and division titles once and for all. All Pirates fans need to hope for is 21 more wins. That's it.

Why do you even bother watching sports? :doh: :frusty:


In a 162 game season you're going to have peaks and valleys. Yep losing to the Marlins sucks. But sweeping the Angles was sweet as hell. Chances are they're going to lose some we think they should win, but they'll also win some everyone expects them to lose.

And what you missed today was that Gerrit Cole pitched another great game. This kid is getting better all the time. Oh sure he'll get beat around by someone before too much longer, but the overall picture is good.

Anyway between Locke, AJ, Liriano, and Cole they got 4 solid starters that will keep them in 95% of the games they play. They just need to be a little bit better situationally on offense.

They'll win 90+ and be a wildcard contender to the end and I think they'll sneak in.

[Hindes204]

Couldn't of said it better Zu....I'm really not even sure why XT pays attention to the pirates at all

[steelerdude15]

I just want to share with everyone a stat. Since the nine game winning streak, the Pirates have gone 10-12 in their last twenty-two games. That is a .454 record which isn't great, but I guess it will do. The Pirates are going to have to bring their A game against the Cardinals in this five game series. Luckily, the series is at home and then they continue their home stand with the Rockies for a three game series.

On another note, we have three days till the trade deadline and I really hope Neal can get a good quality player or maybe a couple of bench players who can help with our offense. Nate Schierholtz would be the perfect candidate for right field, which is the biggest area of concern. He's batting .323 with three homeruns and nine RBIs in his last ten games. The only issue is that the Cubs may ask a lot for Nate, but I think he is someone who you can stretch for.

[zulater]

Couldn't of said it better Zu....I'm really not even sure why XT pays attention to the pirates at all

XT is a good guy, but he needs to take a time out. If watching sports makes you miserable then it kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it?

Truth be told XT is actually a good example for my own weakness towards the Steelers, and as a result I'm going to take greater effort to enjoy the game as it unfolds and stop over reacting to every play. Even every win and loss. I'm just going to enjoy the games as they unfold and cheer on the laundry. When they win it's great. When they lose,we'll get 'em next time.

[Boh]

Worst part? Boston is the visiting team.

I hope whoever is in Baltimore next brings a cell phone...


haha. he actually payed for it out of pocket. they made the repairs before the ball game today.

[X-Terminator]

I expect the worst in pretty much everything, guys. The result of having a lot of shitty luck in my life. So even though I'm a fan of the Pirates, I am getting zero enjoyment out of it, because I'm expecting them to fail miserably the way they have so many times over the past 20 years.

[steelerdude15]

If it makes anyone feel better, the Cardinals were just swept by the Braves.

[Chidi29]

If it makes anyone feel better, the Cardinals were just swept by the Braves.

But this was the perfect time to gain ground. Let's be honest, it's not like we're going to take all five games at St. Louis. So at best, we'll only make up a tiny bit of ground in this series.

[steelerdude15]

But this was the perfect time to gain ground. Let's be honest, it's not like we're going to take all five games at St. Louis. So at best, we'll only make up a tiny bit of ground in this series.

Very true. This is going to be a tough series.

[steeldawg]

But this was the perfect time to gain ground. Let's be honest, it's not like we're going to take all five games at St. Louis. So at best, we'll only make up a tiny bit of ground in this series.

Ya a missed opportunity here against a dreadful Miami team.

[zulater]

Ya a missed opportunity here against a dreadful Miami team.
Dreadfull teams don't always play dreadfull. This was the case this weekend against the Marlins. Especially yesterday, where they had a great young pitcher fully in control of his stuff.

[Chidi29]

McKenry to the DL. Presley called up from Indy, starting in place of Marte tonight.

[steelerdude15]

McKenry to the DL. Presley called up from Indy, starting in place of Marte tonight.

I'm guessing Marte is resting tonight?

[Chidi29]

I'm guessing Marte is resting tonight?

I guess. Day off to kind of cool off and get out of his slump, maybe.

[steelerdude15]

I guess. Day off to kind of cool off and get out of his slump, maybe.

Well lets hope that it will help him get out of his slump.

[steeldawg]

I have a great feeling about this series with the cards, Pirates set the tone tonight with a 5-1 win , book it!

[Hindes204]

BOOM!!! Alvarez sends one over the fence on his first pitch....and just like that it's 4-0

[Chidi29]

El Toro with a three yard blast over the Clemente Wall. 4-0 Bucs, still in the first.

[steelerdude15]

Great job by the Buccos to get the early lead.

[Hindes204]

They are lighting up Westbrook in the first inning

[steeldawg]

wow my 5-1 prediction is in jeopardy looks like it might 10-1.

[Chidi29]

wow my 5-1 prediction is in jeopardy looks like it might 10-1.

Love the start but a long ways to go. St. Louis surely won't go down easily.

[Hindes204]

Liriano is looking good tonight

[steeldawg]

Love the start but a long ways to go. St. Louis surely won't go down easily.

I feel confident with liriano out there he is really solid and as long as he keeps the walks to a minimum its a lock.

[Hindes204]

Nice hustle by cutch keeps the inning alive

[Hindes204]

Six strikeouts through 4 innings for Liriano

[steeldawg]

Six strikeouts through 4 innings for Liriano

Dealing

[salamander]

I literally turned the game on just in time to see the Cards score their first run. I immediately turned it off to avoid any further jinxing. :chuckle:

[zulater]

7 strong for Francisco. :applaudit: Does Liriano go out for the 8th?

[Chidi29]

7 strong for Francisco. :applaudit: Does Liriano go out for the 8th?

I'd be surprised if he did. Shaky in the 7th, started missing. Turn it over to the bullpen.

[zulater]

I'd be surprised if he did. Shaky in the 7th, started missing. Turn it over to the bullpen.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. Of course this is where losing Grilli really hurts. This was so automatic with your great 8th inning guy leading into your shutdown closer.

[Chidi29]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. Of course this is where losing Grilli really hurts. This was so automatic with your great 8th inning guy leading into your shutdown closer.

Exactly.

[steeldawg]

5-1

[zulater]

Marte pinch hitting, so the game is in the bullpen's hands with a 7 run lead.

[Hindes204]

Make that an 8 run lead

[stillers4me]

:chuckle:

362022588672778240

[Hindes204]

Black is struggling, I was hoping to see a better outing for him. Luckily, the lead is so large, it's ok to struggle

[zulater]

Black is struggling, I was hoping to see a better outing for him. Luckily, the lead is so large, it's ok to struggle

Pull him. This lead can be blown if you can't get outs!

[salamander]

Buccos win 9-2!

[zulater]

Glad they got that one under their belt.

FYI with tonights home run Pedro Alvarez forges into the lead in that category in the NL.

[steelerdude15]

The Pirates are only half a game behind the Cards for the lead in the division. Lets hope they can get a victory in one of the games tomorrow.

[Hindes204]

Black Beard rumors starting to gin up. He may be a little rusty after a year and a half off, but if he can get back to where he once was, he would be an awesome closer. He's a little nutty, but I'm open to the idea

[X-Terminator]

Black Beard rumors starting to gin up. He may be a little rusty after a year and a half off, but if he can get back to where he once was, he would be an awesome closer. He's a little nutty, but I'm open to the idea

He's also had Tommy John surgery twice in addition to not having pitched in a ML game in 15 months.

No thanks.

[steelerdude15]

Black Beard rumors starting to gin up. He may be a little rusty after a year and a half off, but if he can get back to where he once was, he would be an awesome closer. He's a little nutty, but I'm open to the idea

I'm hearing the rumors too, but how much do the Giants want for him? Once again, if they're asking for so much, no way. I'd rather just wait till Jason was healthy.

[Chidi29]

I'm hearing the rumors too, but how much do the Giants want for him? Once again, if they're asking for so much, no way. I'd rather just wait till Jason was healthy.

Wilson is a FA.

[zulater]

Anyone know who's starting the nightcap for the Pirates?

[Chidi29]

Anyone know who's starting the nightcap for the Pirates?

Cumpton.

[zulater]

I sure hope AJ has a little bit more luck on his side this start. Guy's had the black cat on his shoulder all year. Pitching way better than his W-L record would indicate.

[Hindes204]

I sure hope AJ has a little bit more luck on his side this start. Guy's had the black cat on his shoulder all year. Pitching way better than his W-L record would indicate.

Yep, his record does not reflect how he is pitching. He is actually pitching quite well, just can't seam to get luck on his side.

[Hindes204]

Just read a report that a trade is close for Rios. I think we will have to pay tooth for him, but it'll definitely be an upgrade

[X-Terminator]

Just read a report that a trade is close for Rios. I think we will have to pay tooth for him, but it'll definitely be an upgrade

Just read another report from CBS's Jon Heyman who says a deal isn't close. So who knows what is going on now.