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Galax Steeler
02-10-2013, 08:13 AM
By Gerry Dulac / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers offensive line will have a different look in 2013, not just in personnel but also in execution.

At least, that is the intent of offensive coordinator Todd Haley and the team's new offensive line coach, Jack Bicknell Jr.

And for good reason.

If the Steelers are interested in running the ball more effectively -- something that didn't happen in 2012 -- they might have to do more than change the people who are blocking up front. They might have to change how they are blocking, too.

And that also would mean finding the right type of running back to fit the schemes that are being employed.

Despite a change in roster makeup to emphasize running the ball better, the Steelers went the other way last season, averaging just 3.7 yards per carry on the ground after averaging 4.4 yards per pop with basically the same personnel in 2011.

Offensive lines are sometimes graded on the protection they afford their quarterback, and, at times, that was much better in 2012 than it has been, especially in two of the games when Charlie Batch had to replace Ben Roethlisberger.

But the true measure of how a line performs is often determined by how effectively a team runs the ball. And that is something the Steelers did not do very well in 2012, other than a three-game span in the middle of the season when they had three consecutive games with a 100-yard rusher -- something the team had not done in five years.

Haley and Bicknell would like to change that. And they will start with injecting more youth, more athleticism and less girth in the offensive line.

When Haley was the head coach in Kansas City, the Chiefs had the league's No. 1 rushing attack with an offensive line that averaged less than 300 pounds. And, in an interview last week on the Steelers website, Bicknell said he doesn't like offensive linemen "who get huge and then they can't bend and move." He said he wants players who can move, run and have the quickness off the ball "to get into people."

That's one of the reasons the Steelers are expected to part ways with Max Starks, who was arguably the team's best lineman in 2012 and the only one to play every snap. Tackles are responsible for allowing running backs to get to the edge and bounce outside, and how many times did you see a Steelers running back do that last season?

That is also not a good fit for guard Willie Colon, who was too thick to move at the team's top pulling spot. Colon, though, is not expected back because of his repeated injury problems.

Their expected departure will pave the way for the Steelers to start an offensive line that could have four, and possibly five, starters under the age of 26.

Marcus Gilbert, who missed 12 games last season with an ankle ligament tear, will likely replace Starks at left tackle. He will be 25 on Friday. Mike Adams, last year's No. 2 pick who missed the final five games with an ankle injury, is expected to start at right tackle. The Steelers do not want to use him at left tackle because Adams has had problems in pass protection -- something the Steelers cannot afford on Roethlisberger's blind side. Adams, though, is a very good run blocker and was the starter at right tackle when the Steelers had three consecutive 100-yard rushers. He is 22.

The team is set with Pro Bowl center Maurkice Pouncey, 23, and right guard David DeCastro, 23, who missed most of the 2012 season with a knee injury. Pouncey (6-4, 304) and DeCastro (6-5, 316) epitomize the long, lean body type the Steelers seek to employ on the offensive line.

The only question is at left guard, where 330-pound Ramon Foster finished the season as the starter.

Foster, though, does not run very well and is not an ideal fit for the team's primary pulling position. Plus, like Starks, he is an unrestricted free agent and might not be re-signed. That could pave the way for tackle Kelvin Beachum, last year's seventh-round pick, to be moved there.

In a season of injuries to many of their draft choices, Beachum was one of the team's most pleasant surprises. Not only did he impress the coaches with his ability to pass protect, he also showed an ability to get out of the edge and run block -- something the coaches want to see more of in 2013.

Beachum, 23, fits in perfectly with the team's desire to have lighter, more agile offensive lineman, and he could be moved to guard and given a chance to play there.

Doug Legurksy, who has started 17 games in his four-year career, would be re-signed to be the backup at center and guard. Legursky is also an unrestricted free agent.

But it might not just be a change in personnel that will affect the look of the offensive line.

The Steelers have been a man-blocking team almost exclusively since Chuck Noll ran the tackle-trap play in the 1970s. But Noll did that with smaller, quicker linemen who could move off the ball and use their quickness to execute blocks.

Today, most of the top running teams in the NFL use a zone-blocking scheme that requires the offensive lineman to block an area, not a specific man. Among them are Kansas City, Washington, Denver and Houston.

Bicknell used a zone-blocking scheme last season with the Chiefs, who finished fifth in the league in rushing after leading the NFL in 2011. Bicknell said the Chiefs used a zone-blocking scheme because they had a running back, Jamaal Charles, who liked to run outside-zone plays.

If the Steelers change to a zone-blocking scheme, then it will be imperative to find the type of running back who is patient, stretches the play and has good cutback instincts.

Right now, the Steelers' top running backs, Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman, are physical backs who run inside and are more tailored to gap runs in a man-blocking scheme. Rashard Mendenhall and Chris Rainey are examples of running backs who can threaten the edge and are more suited to zone-blocking schemes. But Rainey is already gone and Mendenhall is expected to follow.

That will either force the Steelers to find a back to fit a zone-scheme style or continue with a man-blocking attack that suits Redman and Dwyer.

It will all be part of the change that is due to come on the offensive line.

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Shoes
02-10-2013, 09:57 AM
We don't have the money to pick up a RB * who is patient, stretches the play and has good cutback instincts* in the free agent market. Dwins and Tex brought up Lacy's name in the draft and he does look good, but what about a backup?

GBMelBlount
02-10-2013, 10:03 AM
When Haley was the head coach in Kansas City, the Chiefs had the league's No. 1 rushing attack with an offensive line that averaged less than 300 pounds.

Our line is the antithesis.

Big & slow.

Foster better drop some weight and work on his speed.

Also worth mentioning our best offensive lineman only weighs a little over 300.

Shoes
02-10-2013, 10:13 AM
Our line is the antithesis.

Big & slow.

Foster better drop some weight and work on his speed.

This may be the year Haley returns to being a junkyard dog... :chuckle:

SteelerFanInStl
02-10-2013, 10:21 AM
I really like the sound of this but can we get enough healthy bodies to do it this year? It sounds like Starks, Colon and possibly Foster are gone.

salamander
02-10-2013, 10:44 AM
You can have the best o-line in the league but if they keep getting hurt like our o-line does every season, it doesn't mean a damn thing.

SteelerEmpire
02-10-2013, 11:00 AM
This issue with the O line has been going on for years.

Craic
02-10-2013, 01:26 PM
You can have the best o-line in the league but if they keep getting hurt like our o-line does every season, it doesn't mean a damn thing.

True, but I also have to think that having 20 or 40 less pounds on the body is going to help alleviate injuries as well. Not to mention, a 295 pound guy falling on you isn't going to do as much damage as a 340 pound guy falling on you. Agile also means that your more able to make those last second adjustments as you're falling to get your knee or ankle out of a bad position. Least I hope it plays out that way.

GBMelBlount
02-10-2013, 04:17 PM
True, but I also have to think that having 20 or 40 less pounds on the body is going to help alleviate injuries as well.

Beat me to it.

Dwinsgames
02-10-2013, 07:05 PM
if the line is going to under go great changes from big lumbering guys to smaller quicker more athletic guys and a zone blocking scheme this does not bode well for any back on our current roster , and Points at potentially drafting a guy like Stephan Taylor ... this also makes me think we will be investing a pick in the first couple of rounds on a Guard and perhaps a Tackle as well and that scares the hell out of me considering we have dire need at ILB and S that will require early action on draft day ..... we have to trade down to help compensate for the probability of using picks on the O-line early ....

Maybe trade back a half dozen spots , then trade back yet again ............

steelerdude15
02-10-2013, 08:12 PM
I like what I hear about the line's future and I'm excited to see what happens. I could definitely see some growing pains, but it sounds like Haley and Bicknell are on the same page and I think they'll make it a smoother transition.

GBMelBlount
02-10-2013, 09:55 PM
if the line is going to under go great changes from big lumbering guys to smaller quicker more athletic guys and a zone blocking scheme this does not bode well for any back on our current roster , and Points at potentially drafting a guy like Stephan Taylor ... this also makes me think we will be investing a pick in the first couple of rounds on a Guard and perhaps a Tackle as well and that scares the hell out of me considering we have dire need at ILB and S that will require early action on draft day ..... we have to trade down to help compensate for the probability of using picks on the O-line early ....

Maybe trade back a half dozen spots , then trade back yet again ............

That is scary to think about.

However I would imagine it will not be an instantaneous switch.

I also wonder if Beachum can handle it. He is lighter and is hopefully working hard this off season....

Dwinsgames
02-10-2013, 10:53 PM
That is scary to think about.

However I would imagine it will not be an instantaneous switch.

I also wonder if Beachum can handle it. He is lighter and is hopefully working hard this off season....


the downside of Beachum attempting a move to Guard is we have no depth at Tackle and two slated starters that can not stay healthy for any length of time ....

Starks, Colon, Foster, Lego more than likely all gone in 2013 .... where is the depth coming from ? :horror:

Mojouw
02-11-2013, 09:24 AM
if the line is going to under go great changes from big lumbering guys to smaller quicker more athletic guys and a zone blocking scheme this does not bode well for any back on our current roster , and Points at potentially drafting a guy like Stephan Taylor ... this also makes me think we will be investing a pick in the first couple of rounds on a Guard and perhaps a Tackle as well and that scares the hell out of me considering we have dire need at ILB and S that will require early action on draft day ..... we have to trade down to help compensate for the probability of using picks on the O-line early ....

Maybe trade back a half dozen spots , then trade back yet again ............

Wall paper over the problem for a year or so with a veteran back on a "prove it deal" (Ahmad Bradshaw?) and pick up a lottery ticket in Lattimore (sp) - the back who Mcgaheed his knee out of South Carolina after round 5. Perhaps not the best solution, but it would be cheap! Also, I would personally like to see the Front Office trying more "risky" solutions to roster problems.

For instance, I would have put a waiver claim on Titus Young. I know he is a knucklehead, but so are several of the players we have now!

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the downside of Beachum attempting a move to Guard is we have no depth at Tackle and two slated starters that can not stay healthy for any length of time ....

Starks, Colon, Foster, Lego more than likely all gone in 2013 .... where is the depth coming from ? :horror:

Hopefully the draft? I do see your point though. That is a ton of players to replace in one off-season at a single position grouping. The only encouraging thing is that very recently the Steelers have gone from a team that could not identify, draft, and develop offensive lineman to save their lives (Essex, Urbik, etc) to a team that suddenly seems adept at identifying and drafting decent to really talented lineman. Not sure why...

Dwinsgames
02-11-2013, 10:01 AM
That is a ton of players to replace in one off-season at a single position grouping. The only encouraging thing is that very recently the Steelers have gone from a team that could not identify, draft, and develop offensive lineman to save their lives (Essex, Urbik, etc) to a team that suddenly seems adept at identifying and drafting decent to really talented lineman. Not sure why...


Kugler .......

he is now gone ....

Lets hope some of his knowledge remains

GBMelBlount
02-11-2013, 10:14 AM
Hopefully the draft? I do see your point though. That is a ton of players to replace in one off-season at a single position grouping. The only encouraging thing is that very recently the Steelers have gone from a team that could not identify, draft, and develop offensive lineman to save their lives (Essex, Urbik, etc) to a team that suddenly seems adept at identifying and drafting decent to really talented lineman. Not sure why...

The biggest difference I see is that we are drafting them in the 1st and 2nd rounds instead of 3rd and 4th...

steelreserve
02-11-2013, 10:28 AM
The biggest difference I see is that we are drafting them in the 1st and 2nd rounds instead of 3rd and 4th...

^^^Pretty much this.

If we're using all those draft picks on the line, we'd BETTER be getting some top-level players. Sad thing is, the past 4 years in a row we've used our #1 pick on an offensive or defensive lineman, and we've still been getting our asses handed to us on both sides of the ball there.