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polamalubeast
01-10-2013, 02:25 PM
Steelers GM Kevin Colbert “Under the circumstances and due to this conduct, Chris will no longer be a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.”


https://twitter.com/steelers

maybe a overreaction by the steelers....maybe

43Hitman
01-10-2013, 02:27 PM
Steelers GM Kevin Colbert “Under the circumstances and due to this conduct, Chris will no longer be a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.”


https://twitter.com/steelers

I didn't think they had the balls to do this.

Hindes204
01-10-2013, 02:31 PM
I didn't think they had the balls to do this.

He had his one chance when he screwed up the last time, I think it's the right move

Devilsdancefloor
01-10-2013, 02:33 PM
Yeah he is showing a trend of bad behavior, sorry dude hardly knew ya i was hoping for big things from you

86WARD
01-10-2013, 02:34 PM
Boom. Nice job Chris.

zulater
01-10-2013, 02:37 PM
2012, helluva Steeler draft! For the police blotter anyway! :doh: :ouch:

fansince'76
01-10-2013, 02:55 PM
2012, helluva Steeler draft! For the police blotter anyway! :doh: :ouch:

Not to mention the IR list...

SteelerEmpire
01-10-2013, 03:23 PM
Another one bites the dust huh ?

steelreserve
01-10-2013, 03:29 PM
well, that didn't take long.

atlsteelers
01-10-2013, 03:36 PM
I thought what ta'amu did was much worse. both deserved to be cut.. too bad because i liked rainey

steelreserve
01-10-2013, 03:48 PM
I thought what ta'amu did was much worse. both deserved to be cut.. too bad because i liked rainey

It was worse, but the hammer always comes down harder on the second guy to fuck up. Just like with Cedrick Wilson - there's a lot of negative attention already and people are on guard, so you've got to know you don't have room for that type of shit. Hell, in a lot of ways it works the same as getting in a fight on the field. First guy to start pushing and shoving is what draws attention; second one is when they don't put up with it anymore.

Either way, the fact that he did it anyway does not reflect well on him.

BnG_Hevn
01-10-2013, 03:50 PM
He'll find a job somewhere in the NFL. If a guy displays any kind of talent, as long as he is eligible to play he'll be playing.

NCSteeler
01-10-2013, 03:58 PM
He'll be playing for someone soon. Didn't he have trouble in college?

zulater
01-10-2013, 04:10 PM
This could come back and bite us in the ass when we try to extend Maurkice Pouncey. Rainey grew up in Pouncey's household. they're virtually brothers.

I'm not saying the Steelers were wrong to release him. But I would have at least let the case be adjudicated by the courts first.

Godfather
01-10-2013, 05:21 PM
He'll be playing for someone soon. Didn't he have trouble in college?

Yep. He has a history.

It's good to see the Steelers holding valuable players to a high standard of conduct.

steelreserve
01-10-2013, 05:27 PM
This could come back and bite us in the ass when we try to extend Maurkice Pouncey. Rainey grew up in Pouncey's household. they're virtually brothers.

I'm not saying the Steelers were wrong to release him. But I would have at least let the case be adjudicated by the courts first.

Rainey will probably end up signing somewhere else for more money than he was making. A 5th-round pick only gets like $500,000 a year, and it wouldn't be out of the question for a good kick returner who can also do spot duty on offense to make twice that. I don't think he's at risk of washing out of the league, so there's a good chance he'll look back and laugh, like hey, thanks for letting me out of my rookie contract 3 years early, I have a much better deal now.

Oh, and when that happens, I don't think Pouncey will be too mad.

zulater
01-10-2013, 05:27 PM
He'll be playing for someone soon. Didn't he have trouble in college?



Rainey was arrested and accused of a felony stalking charge in Florida in 2010 over a threatening text he sent to a woman that said, "Time to die."
That charge was later reduced to a misdemeanor and he was ordered to perform community service and attend anger management classes.


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/steelers-rookie-charged-with-simple-battery-in-florida-669866/#ixzz2HcO7Oscn


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/college/florida-gators-chris-rainey-arrested-on-stalking-c/nL92X/

X-Terminator
01-10-2013, 05:44 PM
Steelers GM Kevin Colbert “Under the circumstances and due to this conduct, Chris will no longer be a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.”


https://twitter.com/steelers

maybe a overreaction by the steelers....maybe

It's not an overreaction when you have a rap sheet like he does.


This could come back and bite us in the ass when we try to extend Maurkice Pouncey. Rainey grew up in Pouncey's household. they're virtually brothers.

I'm not saying the Steelers were wrong to release him. But I would have at least let the case be adjudicated by the courts first.

If Pouncey puts his friend above the team, then the Steelers are better off without him. Therefore, I highly doubt this causes any problem between him and the organization.

Godfather
01-10-2013, 05:53 PM
I highly doubt this causes any problem between him and the organization.

I also suspect Rainey was warned fair and square that further incidents would not be tolerated. If that's the case, I can't see Pouncey being upset.

SteelerFanInStl
01-10-2013, 05:54 PM
No big loss. I was excited about Rainey when we drafted him but he didn't show me anything this year.

Shoes
01-10-2013, 07:09 PM
Why draft him then? They knew he had history and one strike here and he's out? Oh and by the way why is Ta'amu still on the team? Strange thinking imo.

st33lersguy
01-10-2013, 07:33 PM
Overreaction

shutdown
01-10-2013, 07:35 PM
Anyone notice in the police report they said he fell to the ground 2 or 3 times. Kind of reminds me of his running style, falling to the ground the second he's touched.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out you sad little man....

86WARD
01-10-2013, 07:54 PM
Lotta comparisons to Roethlisberger out there on the internet...lol...here comes all the rape talk again. :noidea:

shutdown
01-10-2013, 08:02 PM
Difference is Ben has never once been even charged or detained for a crime.

I could go out and accuse Tom Brady tomorrow of molesting me, that doesn't bring a charge like it never did for Ben. Rainey has been charged with crimes multiple times. People just enjoy playing stupid. :D

86WARD
01-10-2013, 08:12 PM
yep.

Shoes
01-10-2013, 08:20 PM
It reeks of hypocrisy...once again. Rainey slaps his girl friend and is canned, James Harrison breaks down the door of his sons mother, slaps her and Mr. Rooney says he was trying to take his son to be baptized. This teams standard is no higher than the other 31....plain and simple.


(https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=hypocrisy&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)

shutdown
01-10-2013, 08:25 PM
It reeks of hypocrisy...once again. Rainey slaps his girl friend and is canned, James Harrison breaks down the door of his sons mother, slaps her and Mr. Rooney says he was trying to take his son to be baptized. This teams standard is no higher than the other 31....plain and simple.

1 Incident < 3 Incidents

It's simple math really.

Shoes
01-10-2013, 08:30 PM
1 Incident < 3 Incidents

It's simple math really.

Really it's simple hypocrisy...no shaded glasses here.

zulater
01-10-2013, 08:51 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/10/steelers-technically-cant-cut-rainey-until-after-super-bowl/

Steelers technically can’t cut Rainey until after Super Bowl

The Steelers waived Rainey after he was arrested for allegedly slapping his girlfriend. But there’s minor problem with the team’s intended transaction; rosters for franchises whose seasons have ended are locked until the day after the Super Bowl.

So, as the league office has confirmed to PFT, the Steelers can’t actually waive Rainey until next month. Which means that he won’t be subject to waivers, and in turn not available to be claimed by a playoff team that would be interested in a kickoff return specialist and a young tailback with some pro potential.

Psycho Ward 86
01-10-2013, 08:53 PM
Why draft him then? They knew he had history and one strike here and he's out? Oh and by the way why is Ta'amu still on the team? Strange thinking imo.

no its not. the nfl isnt just a game, its a business. theres going to be double standards. ben allegedly rapes 2 different women and we dont do anything about him because he's our franchise quarterback. harrison gets charges of domestic abuse and we let him stay because he was a perennial all-pro at the time and we need him. taamu get about a dozen and a half charges of alarming severity....whoops, better keep the fella since hampton's going to be gone, leaving only mclendon and taamu at nose tackle.

rainey on the otherhand is only a wasted 5th round pick and only the 4th best runningback on this team. we can afford to lose him. kind of like how the world yawned when we cut cedric wilson, because he wasnt very good anyways

Shoes
01-10-2013, 09:01 PM
no its not. the nfl isnt just a game, its a business. theres going to be double standards. ben allegedly rapes 2 different women and we dont do anything about him because he's our franchise quarterback. harrison gets charges of domestic abuse and we let him stay because he was a perennial all-pro at the time and we need him. taamu get about a dozen and a half charges of alarming severity....whoops, better keep the fella since hampton's going to be gone, leaving only mclendon and taamu at nose tackle.

rainey on the otherhand is only a wasted 5th round pick and only the 4th best runningback on this team. we can afford to lose him. kind of like how the world yawned when we cut cedric wilson, because he wasnt very good anyways

Of course....but the beef is most "fans" think we do business at a higher standard.....and we do not.

Psycho Ward 86
01-10-2013, 09:09 PM
Of course....but the beef is most "fans" think we do business at a higher standard.....and we do not.

kind of true depending on your process of thought. it used to seem that way because so many of the troublemakers on the team used to be a bunch of disposable backups or aging veterans. Not quite so much anymore.

zulater
01-10-2013, 09:18 PM
If a Steeler player gets criminally charged or convicted, will there ever be a time when Ben Roethlisberger, who was never arrested, criminally charged or convicted, have his name brought up as if he's guilty all over again, when in fact he never was to begin with?

I get it with non Steeler fans and contrarians who dislike sports and athletes. But when it keeps coming up from Steeler fans it gets fucking old in a hurry.

You would think you could get some refuge from that sort of false logic here? :frusty:

fansince'76
01-10-2013, 09:24 PM
If a Steeler player gets criminally charged or convicted, will there ever be a time when Ben Roethlisberger, who was never arrested, criminally charged or convicted, have his name brought up as if he's guilty all over again, when in fact he never was to begin with?

Yes, but it will be after he retires. Of course, maybe he'll "find God," go on a huge self-promotion kick for the rest of his career and shoot his mouth off every time somebody sticks a mic in front of it while the press conveniently neglects to ever mention it again like a certain soon-to-be-retired LB...

SteelerFanInStl
01-10-2013, 09:43 PM
If a Steeler player gets criminally charged or convicted, will there ever be a time when Ben Roethlisberger, who was never arrested, criminally charged or convicted, have his name brought up as if he's guilty all over again, when in fact he never was to begin with?

I get it with non Steeler fans and contrarians who dislike sports and athletes. But when it keeps coming up from Steeler fans it gets fucking old in a hurry.

You would think you could get some refuge from that sort of false logic here? :frusty:

It'll never change. These are the same people that were crying for the Steelers to cut Ben.

Pristas
01-10-2013, 09:57 PM
It'll never change. These are the same people that were crying for the Steelers to cut Ben.

Ben is always going to have to deal with his dirty bathroom dance in Millegeville. Nobody knows the details, but enough of the report came out that was pretty gross and damaging for 90% of America to convict him of being a douche. If I go out and club a baby seal to death, but nobody turns me in and I'm not tried for any crime, it doesn't mean I don't have baggage.

Rainey got cut because of 2nd offense. Plain and simple. Ta'amu is on the very same short string. That said, I'll bet money that Ta'amu is remorseful where Rainey could give a shit that he smacked a hoe. The FO knows this and that's why he is still with the team. Character is easy to observe in times of adversity.

86WARD
01-10-2013, 10:10 PM
If a Steeler player gets criminally charged or convicted, will there ever be a time when Ben Roethlisberger, who was never arrested, criminally charged or convicted, have his name brought up as if he's guilty all over again, when in fact he never was to begin with?

I get it with non Steeler fans and contrarians who dislike sports and athletes. But when it keeps coming up from Steeler fans it gets fucking old in a hurry.

You would think you could get some refuge from that sort of false logic here? :frusty:

Nope. He'll unfortunately always be brought up...first outside and then it'll leak it's way in. Maybe one day he'll be accepted...you know, how Ray Lewis is? Maybe Brett Favre? No one seems
to remember murder charges or drug addiction.

Devilsdancefloor
01-10-2013, 10:47 PM
If a Steeler player gets criminally charged or convicted, will there ever be a time when Ben Roethlisberger, who was never arrested, criminally charged or convicted, have his name brought up as if he's guilty all over again, when in fact he never was to begin with?

I get it with non Steeler fans and contrarians who dislike sports and athletes. But when it keeps coming up from Steeler fans it gets fucking old in a hurry.

You would think you could get some refuge from that sort of false logic here? :frusty:

you would think, but no such luck Zu at times steeler nation likes top cut its own throat.

Shoes
01-10-2013, 10:49 PM
Ben is always going to have to deal with his dirty bathroom dance in Millegeville. Nobody knows the details, but enough of the report came out that was pretty gross and damaging for 90% of America to convict him of being a douche. If I go out and club a baby seal to death, but nobody turns me in and I'm not tried for any crime, it doesn't mean I don't have baggage.

Rainey got cut because of 2nd offense. Plain and simple. Ta'amu is on the very same short string. That said, I'll bet money that Ta'amu is remorseful where Rainey could give a shit that he smacked a hoe. The FO knows this and that's why he is still with the team. Character is easy to observe in times of adversity.

How would anyone know that? My understanding is that he's still in jail. I'm surely not defending Rainey. But the "standard isn't the standard" in Pittsburgh.....that to me is plain and simple.

Psycho Ward 86
01-10-2013, 11:33 PM
If a Steeler player gets criminally charged or convicted, will there ever be a time when Ben Roethlisberger, who was never arrested, criminally charged or convicted, have his name brought up as if he's guilty all over again, when in fact he never was to begin with?

I get it with non Steeler fans and contrarians who dislike sports and athletes. But when it keeps coming up from Steeler fans it gets fucking old in a hurry.

You would think you could get some refuge from that sort of false logic here? :frusty:

never said he was guilty. i was just using it as an example of possible "red flags" on a player. the world didnt yawn at those allegations, not even steelers fans, even if they didnt believe them to be true. its serious nonetheless. not sure how youre going to argue that one. but yeah, tying into the whole double standards thing is the fact that brett favre and ray lewis completely get away with it. thats just life

LLT
01-11-2013, 01:48 AM
And THIS is why players like Baron Batch....Antonio Brown...and Emmanuel Sanders are precious commodities.

Players with little sense of entightelment...who dont buy into the spoiled pro player mentality.



Of course....but the beef is most "fans" think we do business at a higher standard.....and we do not.

Disagree...the organization holds iteself to a higher standard then MOST of the pro teams. If a player goes off the reservation, they are usually given a chance to redeem themselves. If they show no remorse and act out again...they are virtually always shown the door.

steelreserve
01-11-2013, 02:18 AM
And THIS is why players like Baron Batch....Antonio Brown...and Emmanuel Sanders are precious commodities.

Players with little sense of entightelment...who dont buy into the spoiled pro player mentality.

Just watch. Brown will get 3 DUIs tomorrow, Sanders will get caught with an underage hooker, and Batch will be in a knife fight after a nightclub altercation. Next week: Heath Miller gets caught sitting on an entire barn full of weed for the Zetas.

LLT
01-11-2013, 02:39 AM
Just watch. Brown will get 3 DUIs tomorrow, Sanders will get caught with an underage hooker, and Batch will be in a knife fight after a nightclub altercation. Next week: Heath Miller gets caught sitting on an entire barn full of weed for the Zetas.

LOL.....I think only Ed has the ability to curse players that way.

Shoes
01-11-2013, 07:01 AM
Disagree...the organization holds iteself to a higher standard then MOST of the pro teams. If a player goes off the reservation, they are usually given a chance to redeem themselves. If they show no remorse and act out again...they are virtually always shown the door.

Sorry LLT, I don't buy it.

Pristas
01-11-2013, 07:29 AM
How would anyone know that? My understanding is that he's still in jail. I'm surely not defending Rainey. But the "standard isn't the standard" in Pittsburgh.....that to me is plain and simple.

Simple. You can take the man out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the man. I've read enough about Rainey already to know that he comes from a tough past, has character issues, and is an unstable fit for our organization. That said, he could have cleaned up his act (long shot) and been a valuable contributor. That was the chance he was given. Now he'll end up playing for the Jets.

X-Terminator
01-11-2013, 07:29 AM
Sorry LLT, I don't buy it.

I'm pretty darn sure they do hold their organization to a higher standard. But they are not babysitters and cannot hold their players' hands 24/7. It is up to the PLAYERS to make sure they stay out of trouble. They are grown men, for crying out loud. If they can't keep their noses clean and run with the opportunity they were given, it's not the organization's fault...it's their own fault.

NCSteeler
01-11-2013, 08:07 AM
Nope. He'll unfortunately always be brought up...first outside and then it'll leak it's way in. Maybe one day he'll be accepted...you know, how Ray Lewis is? Maybe Brett Favre? No one seems
to remember murder charges or drug addiction.

The only real difference is that Ray and Brett did their best to extend their careers to a point where the internet generation was in grade school when they committed their sins, so it's all forgotten. I could give a crap abotu Ray, but it baffles me how he gets a free pass from the media and the non-steeler fan internet. He Freaking won the SB MVP less than 12 months after pleading guilty to obstruction of justice of a homicide. Amazing! But I did notice this AM that USA Today online did a piece on the murders http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/01/10/ray-lewis-baltimore-ravens-atlanta-murder-2000/1566198/

AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT it is the front of the online sports section.

How exactly do you make a deal to testify against someone and then never implicate them, sweet


Only Lewis pleaded guilty in relation to the case: for obstruction of justice, a misdemeanor. He originally was charged with two counts of murder but struck a deal with prosecutors in exchange for his testimony against two of his companions that night, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting.

Lewis never implicated his two friends at trial, and they were acquitted. Lewis had testified that Oakley, Sweeting and another man had gone to a sporting goods store the previous day to buy knives. Baker's blood later was found in Lewis' limo. Having fled the crime scene, Lewis told the limo's passengers to "keep their mouths shut." The white suit Lewis was wearing that night — on Super Bowl Sunday — never was found.

OH sickening
Commissioner Roger Goodell even said he wants to employ Lewis as a special adviser to himself because he's a "tremendous voice of reason."

NJarhead
01-11-2013, 08:47 AM
If a Steeler player gets criminally charged or convicted, will there ever be a time when Ben Roethlisberger, who was never arrested, criminally charged or convicted, have his name brought up as if he's guilty all over again, when in fact he never was to begin with?

I get it with non Steeler fans and contrarians who dislike sports and athletes. But when it keeps coming up from Steeler fans it gets fucking old in a hurry.

You would think you could get some refuge from that sort of false logic here? :frusty:

I don't let it bother me anymore. Mainly because, as you pointed out, Ben was never arrested or charged with a damn thing. He was guilty of sleezy behavior, but oh well. I don't believe any fan of any other team in the NFL has a leg to stand on when pointing their critical finger.

Shoes
01-11-2013, 08:51 PM
Simple. You can take the man out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the man. I've read enough about Rainey already to know that he comes from a tough past, has character issues, and is an unstable fit for our organization. That said, he could have cleaned up his act (long shot) and been a valuable contributor. That was the chance he was given. Now he'll end up playing for the Jets.

Life isn't so simple. I've seen people turn their lives around from horrible circumstance and become fine citizens. I respectfully disagree with everything you said.

Chidi29
01-16-2013, 12:48 PM
Steelers will not reconsider move of waiving Chris Rainey says Kevin Colbert.

https://twitter.com/EdBouchette/status/291617184285880321

Dwinsgames
01-16-2013, 01:03 PM
Dri Archer wr/rb/st Kent St 7th round . problem solved

43Hitman
01-16-2013, 01:16 PM
Dri Archer wr/rb/st Kent St 7th round . problem solved
What about Denard Robinson from Michigan? Forgive my spelling of his first name, I'm sure I butchered it. I'm gonna look up your guy though and check him out.

Shoes
01-16-2013, 01:26 PM
Dri Archer wr/rb/st Kent St 7th round . problem solved

How's his baggage DG?

Chidi29
01-16-2013, 01:27 PM
Dri Archer wr/rb/st Kent St 7th round . problem solved

Like the idea and the name but he's staying at Kent for his senior year.

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2013/01/kent_states_dri_archer_tweets.html

“The decision has been made 2013 I will be in a Kent State uniform for my senior season,” he posted. “A choice had to be made and I know this is a great choice I am making by comin back to school ... I got some things to accomplish before I leave we bout to win this MAC CHAMPIONSHIP and the bowl game.”

I think he would have been higher than a 7th round pick too.

Dwinsgames
01-16-2013, 01:33 PM
Like the idea and the name but he's staying at Kent for his senior year.

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2013/01/kent_states_dri_archer_tweets.html

“The decision has been made 2013 I will be in a Kent State uniform for my senior season,” he posted. “A choice had to be made and I know this is a great choice I am making by comin back to school ... I got some things to accomplish before I leave we bout to win this MAC CHAMPIONSHIP and the bowl game.”

I think he would have been higher than a 7th round pick too.


thanks for the link , first I have seen this

wonder what changed his mind , was rumored he was intending to declare for the draft

Psycho Ward 86
01-16-2013, 02:43 PM
i dont like this obssession with the dual/triple threat athletes. there arent too many randall cobb's out there. maybe a little size in the receiving corp wouldnt hurt to go along with brown and sanders. It was so frustrating to watch our receivers struggle to even bump out a yard or 2 upon contact. and if they did...fumble fest :(