View Full Version : Obama May Issue Gun Control 'Order' And Bypass Congress
SteelerEmpire
01-09-2013, 09:03 PM
...The vice president met Wednesday with gun-safety and victims groups, saying he is "determined" to take "urgent action" to address gun violence...
LINK: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/09/vice-president-to-meet-with-gun-safety-groups/*
stillers4me
01-09-2013, 09:30 PM
Obama may ignore the people's will and push his own agenda?????????
No way.
Dwinsgames
01-09-2013, 09:36 PM
good luck with that Mr Resident ...... yes resident
fansince'76
01-09-2013, 10:44 PM
http://www.politifake.org/image/political/small/1201/im-not-bound-by-the-constitution-obama-czar-politics-1325951177.jpg
GBMelBlount
01-10-2013, 12:07 AM
Obama may ignore the people's will and push his own agenda?????????
No way.
Actually the liberals destroyed most people's will.
SteelerEmpire
01-10-2013, 09:37 AM
Lol...
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President Obama goes to a primary school to talk to the kids.
After his talk he offers question time.
One little boy puts up his hand, and Obama asks him his name.
"Walter", responds the little boy.
"And what is your question, Walter?"
"I have four questions:
First, Why did the USA Bomb Libya without the support of the Congress?
Second, Why do you keep saying you fixed the economy when it's actually gotten worse?
Third, Why did you say that Jeremiah Wright was your mentor, then said that you
knew nothing about his preaching and beliefs?
Fourth, Why are we lending $ to Brazil to drill for oil, but America is not allowed to drill for oil?"
Just then, the bell rings for recess. Obama informs the kiddies that they will continue after recess.
When they resume Obama says, "OK, where were we? Oh, that's right: question time. Who has a question?"
Another little boy puts up his hand. Obama points him out and asks him his name.
"Steve," he responds.
"And what is your question, Steve?"
Actually, I have two questions.
First, Why did the recess bell ring 20 minutes early?
Second, What the f*#k happened to Walter?"
Mach1
01-10-2013, 09:47 AM
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SCSTILLER
01-10-2013, 10:25 AM
Lol...
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President Obama goes to a primary school to talk to the kids.
After his talk he offers question time.
One little boy puts up his hand, and Obama asks him his name.
"Walter", responds the little boy.
"And what is your question, Walter?"
"I have four questions:
First, Why did the USA Bomb Libya without the support of the Congress?
Second, Why do you keep saying you fixed the economy when it's actually gotten worse?
Third, Why did you say that Jeremiah Wright was your mentor, then said that you
knew nothing about his preaching and beliefs?
Fourth, Why are we lending $ to Brazil to drill for oil, but America is not allowed to drill for oil?"
Just then, the bell rings for recess. Obama informs the kiddies that they will continue after recess.
When they resume Obama says, "OK, where were we? Oh, that's right: question time. Who has a question?"
Another little boy puts up his hand. Obama points him out and asks him his name.
"Steve," he responds.
"And what is your question, Steve?"
Actually, I have two questions.
First, Why did the recess bell ring 20 minutes early?
Second, What the f*#k happened to Walter?"
Thanks, I just spit water out of my nose!
NJarhead
01-10-2013, 11:46 AM
"Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons."
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
Mach1
01-10-2013, 04:28 PM
Obama signs bill, gets Secret Service protection for life
Washington (CNN) – With the stroke of a pen Thursday, President Barack Obama gave himself and his wife Secret Service protection for the rest of their lives.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/10/obama-signs-bill-gets-secret-service-protection-for-life/
Meanwhile let's take away guns and self protection from the American taxpayers while I'm going to make the American taxpayers pay for my ARMED GUARDS FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
SteelerEmpire
01-10-2013, 04:39 PM
Meanwhile let's take away guns and self protection from the American taxpayers while I'm going to make the American taxpayers pay for my ARMED GUARDS FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
Oh oh. Looks like he's planning on pissing a "lot" of people off during his 2nd term... security guards 4 life !!
Mach1
01-10-2013, 05:28 PM
At our expense, taxpayers, it covers former presidents too.
meanwhile:
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Dwinsgames
01-10-2013, 05:36 PM
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stillers4me
01-10-2013, 06:48 PM
So when is he going to take urgent action about the unemployment rate?
Dwinsgames
01-10-2013, 06:52 PM
So when is he going to take urgent action about the unemployment rate?
or coming clean on Benghazi ..............
Mach1
01-10-2013, 07:12 PM
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Mach1
01-11-2013, 03:09 PM
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fansince'76
01-14-2013, 05:12 PM
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SteelerEmpire
01-14-2013, 05:21 PM
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Lol. Their using that argument in reverse now: i.e., If 323 murders were committed by guns, and 496 were committed by hammers, then you don't NEED a gun (thus, the ban should not be an issue with you, with guns). So what you NEED to defend yourself with is a hammer ! ... lol.
Mach1
01-14-2013, 05:33 PM
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SCSTILLER
01-14-2013, 06:31 PM
I was just listening to the news and again the federal registry of guns came up. Now my question is, what is supposed to be the purpose of a federal registry? What do the anti-gun idiots think is going to be accomplished with a federal gun registry? I for the life of me cannot think of any rational reason to have a federal gun registry.
GoSlash27
01-14-2013, 09:22 PM
The cognitive dissonance in this literally made my head hurt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzr9CiGaPQ0
The part where he talks about "gathering data to track guns that fall into the hands of criminals" is especially mind boggling. This is the guy who smuggled "assault weapons" to the Mexican drug cartels and then forgot to track them.
I suppose his plan is to issue an executive order saying "hey guys... remember Fast and Furious? Let's not do that anymore..."
:doh2:
Mach1
01-14-2013, 11:26 PM
I was just listening to the news and again the federal registry of guns came up. Now my question is, what is supposed to be the purpose of a federal registry? What do the anti-gun idiots think is going to be accomplished with a federal gun registry? I for the life of me cannot think of any rational reason to have a federal gun registry.
If/when confiscation starts they know where and who's door to kick down. Of course that only affects the law abiding citizen.
SCSTILLER
01-15-2013, 09:43 AM
If/when confiscation starts they know where and who's door to kick down. Of course that only affects the law abiding citizen.
I completely understand and agree with that being the main reason Mach. I guess what I am trying to ask is that I have heard people say, mostly liberal family members (married into a liberal Connecticut family), that they don't think guns should be outlawed, but that there should be a federal registry. My question to them has been what is the purpose, and they say that it is a good database and all guns should be tracked. Again, why the database if there supposedly won't be the confiscation of guns?
X-Terminator
01-15-2013, 12:31 PM
I completely understand and agree with that being the main reason Mach. I guess what I am trying to ask is that I have heard people say, mostly liberal family members (married into a liberal Connecticut family), that they don't think guns should be outlawed, but that there should be a federal registry. My question to them has been what is the purpose, and they say that it is a good database and all guns should be tracked. Again, why the database if there supposedly won't be the confiscation of guns?
I would say your liberal family members have too much blind faith in the government. The President is already threatening to do an end-around the 2nd Amendment to enact his own gun laws, so what makes them think the feds wouldn't do the same with gun confiscation? A registry just makes it easier for them. All they would need is a justification, and voila! No more guns...except for them, of course. I think this is their ultimate goal. Whether it will be successful or not remains to be seen. Even if it doesn't come to that, how is a registry going to keep guns out of the hands of criminals?
Mach1
01-15-2013, 01:51 PM
I would say your liberal family members have too much blind faith in the government. The President is already threatening to do an end-around the 2nd Amendment to enact his own gun laws, so what makes them think the feds wouldn't do the same with gun confiscation? A registry just makes it easier for them. All they would need is a justification, and voila! No more guns...except for them, of course. I think this is their ultimate goal. Whether it will be successful or not remains to be seen. Even if it doesn't come to that, how is a registry going to keep guns out of the hands of criminals?
It's not!
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Dwinsgames
01-15-2013, 02:26 PM
they could care less about guns in the hands of the criminals in fact they welcome it ....
here is why ....
as long as Criminals and mentally ill people have some guns they will do what they do best with them and that is reign terror down on the unsuspecting unarmed public in places designated as gun free zones so they are conformable that they are in fact the only ones armed ...
this is horrible for the law abiding public but it at the same time is more advertisement free of charge ( with exception to the loss of life of innocent people ) and the type of advertisement that gets the heart strings of many americans to just give their rights away without a fight ...
enough actions continue and the restrictions become more and more intensified until they ( by the help of the people ) feel justified in a total repeal of the second amendment THEN and only then will they make it a point to get the guns out of the criminals hands because they will have then accomplished their goals and have no use for said criminals " help" in achieving their goals ....at that point it is game ,set , match and the loser is you and me ....
buy some heavy grease ( lots of it ) and build a box out of treated lumber line it with plastic fill it with the grease and bury a few guns and a water tight ammo can inside of the box .... that is the ONLY way to ensure you have a gun if/when the door kicking starts ...
people say they will get it from my cold dead hand , well they will if you take that route they will have more people and be better prepared than you will be ( they know when it is going to happen and you do not giving them more advantage ) ... keep a few to " give away " and live to join with others to fight " if need be ... we do not know what is going to happen it may not be for 2-3-10 years until it gets to that point ... it may be 2 weeks from now ...but everything you can afford to buy now from private owners with no paper work trail is my best suggestion and in many places that leaves hand guns out of the equation , long guns are the best thing anyways if it comes to that but without ammo or reloading tools stocked with supplies no amount of weaponry will matter ....
oh boy this sounds psycho looking back over it ... but it is true if we want our country back we may be forced to physically take it back at some point and it can not be done by a people that is ill prepared
Craic
01-15-2013, 03:21 PM
they could care less about guns in the hands of the criminals in fact they welcome it ....
here is why ....
as long as Criminals and mentally ill people have some guns they will do what they do best with them and that is reign terror down on the unsuspecting unarmed public in places designated as gun free zones so they are conformable that they are in fact the only ones armed ...
this is horrible for the law abiding public but it at the same time is more advertisement free of charge ( with exception to the loss of life of innocent people ) and the type of advertisement that gets the heart strings of many americans to just give their rights away without a fight ...
enough actions continue and the restrictions become more and more intensified until they ( by the help of the people ) feel justified in a total repeal of the second amendment THEN and only then will they make it a point to get the guns out of the criminals hands because they will have then accomplished their goals and have no use for said criminals " help" in achieving their goals ....at that point it is game ,set , match and the loser is you and me ....
buy some heavy grease ( lots of it ) and build a box out of treated lumber line it with plastic fill it with the grease and bury a few guns and a water tight ammo can inside of the box .... that is the ONLY way to ensure you have a gun if/when the door kicking starts ...
people say they will get it from my cold dead hand , well they will if you take that route they will have more people and be better prepared than you will be ( they know when it is going to happen and you do not giving them more advantage ) ... keep a few to " give away " and live to join with others to fight " if need be ... we do not know what is going to happen it may not be for 2-3-10 years until it gets to that point ... it may be 2 weeks from now ...but everything you can afford to buy now from private owners with no paper work trail is my best suggestion and in many places that leaves hand guns out of the equation , long guns are the best thing anyways if it comes to that but without ammo or reloading tools stocked with supplies no amount of weaponry will matter ....
oh boy this sounds psycho looking back over it ... but it is true if we want our country back we may be forced to physically take it back at some point and it can not be done by a people that is ill prepared
Hiding guns won't do a thing. GPR units can see pipe at over 20 ft. in dense, wet clay. When it dries, it can see it upwards of 60 feet down. If we ever come to that stage, hiding stuff in your backyard simply is NOT going to work. Then, there's the other idea. If the times comes when you need to hide weapons in the ground, that's the time when you need the weapons in your hand.
Mach1
01-15-2013, 04:28 PM
they could care less about guns in the hands of the criminals in fact they welcome it ....
here is why ....
as long as Criminals and mentally ill people have some guns they will do what they do best with them and that is reign terror down on the unsuspecting unarmed public in places designated as gun free zones so they are conformable that they are in fact the only ones armed ...
this is horrible for the law abiding public but it at the same time is more advertisement free of charge ( with exception to the loss of life of innocent people ) and the type of advertisement that gets the heart strings of many americans to just give their rights away without a fight ...
enough actions continue and the restrictions become more and more intensified until they ( by the help of the people ) feel justified in a total repeal of the second amendment THEN and only then will they make it a point to get the guns out of the criminals hands because they will have then accomplished their goals and have no use for said criminals " help" in achieving their goals ....at that point it is game ,set , match and the loser is you and me ....
buy some heavy grease ( lots of it ) and build a box out of treated lumber line it with plastic fill it with the grease and bury a few guns and a water tight ammo can inside of the box .... that is the ONLY way to ensure you have a gun if/when the door kicking starts ...
people say they will get it from my cold dead hand , well they will if you take that route they will have more people and be better prepared than you will be ( they know when it is going to happen and you do not giving them more advantage ) ... keep a few to " give away " and live to join with others to fight " if need be ... we do not know what is going to happen it may not be for 2-3-10 years until it gets to that point ... it may be 2 weeks from now ...but everything you can afford to buy now from private owners with no paper work trail is my best suggestion and in many places that leaves hand guns out of the equation , long guns are the best thing anyways if it comes to that but without ammo or reloading tools stocked with supplies no amount of weaponry will matter ....
oh boy this sounds psycho looking back over it ... but it is true if we want our country back we may be forced to physically take it back at some point and it can not be done by a people that is ill prepared
A big PVC pipe with water proof caps on each end works better than wood that can rot and grease that dissolves over time.
Dwinsgames
01-15-2013, 05:18 PM
A big PVC pipe with water proof caps on each end works better than wood that can rot and grease that dissolves over time.
yea it would , but was not planning on burial for 50 years ... treated wood plastic lined would not rot for a long time and the grease would stay intact as long as the wood or longer ... but your idea is cheaper and quicker
will have to implement that idea ,and I have pipe here now just need end caps and new can of glue ... thanks
Craic
01-15-2013, 05:30 PM
yea it would , but was not planning on burial for 50 years ... treated wood plastic lined would not rot for a long time and the grease would stay intact as long as the wood or longer ... but your idea is cheaper and quicker
will have to implement that idea ,and I have pipe here now just need end caps and new can of glue ... thanks
Like I said before, just make sure it's not on your own property, or it'll be a worthless endeavor.
Dwinsgames
01-15-2013, 06:00 PM
Like I said before, just make sure it's not on your own property, or it'll be a worthless endeavor.
yea , in my area there is LOTS of land that is unused by the public not a highly populated area ( I can shoot off my porch )
Craic
01-15-2013, 06:06 PM
yea , in my area there is LOTS of land that is unused by the public not a highly populated area ( I can shoot off my porch )
Now I'm just jealous.
Dwinsgames
01-15-2013, 06:17 PM
Now I'm just jealous.
sorry
43Hitman
01-15-2013, 06:19 PM
Sources say he's weighing as many as 19 possible actions he could take through executive order. Those options could include more aggressively enforcing existing gun laws, beefing up national research on guns and ordering stricter action against people who lie on gun sale background checks. They could include ordering tougher penalties for gun-trafficking offenses and ordering federal agencies to make data on gun crimes more readily available.
Carney on Tuesday declined to specify what actions the president might take via executive order.
The president, though, has already voiced support for separate legislative measures in Congress, like the renewal of the assault weapons ban. That is expected to face the toughest opposition in Congress. But Biden, who led the gun violence task force and met with the president Monday, indicated the group is also pressing for limits on high-capacity magazines -- as well as background checks for anyone seeking to purchase a gun. Carney reiterated Tuesday that Obama still wants those measures pursued.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/obama-weighs-1-executive-actions-on-gun-control/?cmpid=prn_aol&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D257422#i xzz2I5awBjTm
Dwinsgames
01-15-2013, 07:02 PM
http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10700507
Texas saying BULLSHIT !!! Try and enforce new laws and we will Jail the Feds....
now if more states follow suit to what Texas is wanting to do , we could be on to something
but since Federal law supersedes state law not sure how that will work out if it even passes
Mach1
01-16-2013, 12:29 PM
I have a bad feeling that very shortly some of us are going to be felons.
As much as I can't stand to look at either one of the assbags. What we seen spew from the mouth of evil is for certain he realizes he cannot act on his own and members of the house have stated they want nothing to do with more gun laws. Keep up the letters, calls and emails to your reps. and senators. Don't stop now as we can see the potus realizes he does not have the power he thought he did.
Dwinsgames
01-16-2013, 01:42 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-unveils-sweeping-plan-battle-gun-violence-165956859--politics.html
and so it begins ...............
Hitler has just entered the building People
smokin3000gt
01-16-2013, 01:51 PM
About the only thing that I've read and can agree with is the gun show loop hole. Everyone should get a background check but the scary gun ban, registry, and everything else is complete and udder bullshit.
Mach1
01-16-2013, 01:57 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-unveils-sweeping-plan-battle-gun-violence-165956859--politics.html
and so it begins ...............
Hitler has just entered the building People
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43Hitman
01-16-2013, 01:59 PM
I swear this administration is trying to piss on our faces on purpose. It's almost like they want us to snap or something.
Dwinsgames
01-16-2013, 02:02 PM
I can foresee the day coming soon that will make Ruby Ridge look like a walk in the park
Mach1
01-16-2013, 02:02 PM
I swear this administration is trying to piss on our faces on purpose. It's almost like they want us to snap or something.
If that did happen you'd see martial law and a dictatorship emerge.
Dwinsgames
01-16-2013, 02:05 PM
If that did happen you'd see martial law and a dictatorship emerge.
they are ready for that now ..... are you ? ( you meaning all of us )
43Hitman
01-16-2013, 02:07 PM
If that did happen you'd see martial law and a dictatorship emerge.
I think that Marshall Law would more than likely start a civil war.
zulater
01-16-2013, 05:09 PM
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/18060/
Statement by Gov. Perry on President Obama’s Executive Actions
Gov. Rick Perry released the following statement regarding President Obama's executive actions:
"The Vice President's committee was appointed in response to the tragedy at Newtown, but very few of his recommendations have anything to do with what happened there.
"Guns require a finger to pull the trigger. The sad young man who did that in Newtown was clearly haunted by demons and no gun law could have saved the children in Sandy Hook Elementary from his terror.
"There is evil prowling in the world - it shows up in our movies, video games and online fascinations, and finds its way into vulnerable hearts and minds. As a free people, let us choose what kind of people we will be. Laws, the only redoubt of secularism, will not suffice. Let us all return to our places of worship and pray for help. Above all, let us pray for our children.
"In fact, the piling on by the political left, and their cohorts in the media, to use the massacre of little children to advance a pre-existing political agenda that would not have saved those children, disgusts me, personally. The second amendment to the Constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot be nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president."
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2518781#.UPckzCdEG8B
Sen. Marco Rubio R-Fla. criticized President Obama moments ago for his speech promoting gun control and abusing his executive powers. The president initiated 23 executive orders during his press conference, vowing to “use whatever weight this office holds” to promote his agenda.
In a statement, Rubio warned that Obama’s use of executive power was troubling.
“Making matters worse is that President Obama is again abusing his power by imposing his policies via executive fiat instead of allowing them to be debated in Congress,” he said. “President Obama’s frustration with our republic and the way it works doesn’t give him license to ignore the Constitution.”
Rubio added that Obama’s proposals would not have actually prevented the school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut and were threatening the Second Amendment rights of legal gun owners.
“President Obama is targeting the 2nd Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens instead of seriously addressing the real underlying causes of such violence,” Rubio said.
Count Steeler
01-16-2013, 05:53 PM
Here in the "safe" country of Canada, my future daughter-in-law's childhood friend was stabbed to death 2 nights ago. Thank God for gun control.
stillers4me
01-16-2013, 06:02 PM
Here in the "safe" country of Canada, my future daughter-in-law's childhood friend was stabbed to death 2 nights ago. Thank God for gun control.
I'm so sorry, Joe.
43Hitman
01-16-2013, 06:10 PM
Here in the "safe" country of Canada, my future daughter-in-law's childhood friend was stabbed to death 2 nights ago. Thank God for gun control.
I'm really sorry to hear that man.
X-Terminator
01-17-2013, 12:30 AM
Here in the "safe" country of Canada, my future daughter-in-law's childhood friend was stabbed to death 2 nights ago. Thank God for gun control.
Sorry to hear that, Joe.
Craic
01-17-2013, 01:35 AM
Here in the "safe" country of Canada, my future daughter-in-law's childhood friend was stabbed to death 2 nights ago. Thank God for gun control.
I'm very sorry to hear that. You have both my condolences, and my prayers.
Mach1
01-17-2013, 04:22 PM
Sorry to hear about that Count.
President Obama Undermines Case Against Universal E-Verify
“First, it’s time for Congress to require a universal background check on anyone trying to buy a gun.” These were President Obama’s words as he outlined his plans for gun control legislation on Wednesday.
FAIR takes no position on gun issues, but the president’s unequivocal support for universal checks demonstrates two things:
1.The president does not consider background checks to be an infringement on anyone’s constitutional liberties, and
2.The president does not consider there to be any technological impediments to carrying out universal checks before someone is permitted to purchase a firearm.
In making his statement, President Obama also negated the most frequently offered arguments against making E-Verify checks universal. If all gun dealers can be required to make sure that a customer meets eligibility standards to purchase a gun, why can’t all employers be required to check that the people they hire meet the eligibility requirements to hold a job? If existing technology and databases are reliable enough to determine someone’s fitness to own a weapon, shouldn’t existing technology and databases be reliable enough to determine someone’s eligibility to work in the United States?
http://immigrationreform.com/2013/01/17/president-obama-undermines-case-against-universal-e-verify/
GoSlash27
01-17-2013, 05:36 PM
You folks know I'm a huge gun guy and a staunch defender of the Constitution, so I hope you'll lend me a little credence on this one:
What Obama has done here is nothing. It's certainly no reason to get all wound- up and start burying your guns.
His executive orders do nothing other than to enforce the laws that are already on the books, which we have all said at one point or another is a good thing. And his proposed legislation is never going to get passed. It won't even make it out of committee.
The only exception is possibly the so-called "gun show loophole", which, while completely ineffective, isn't actually a *bad* idea.
I think we should all take a deep breath and relax a little.
My $0.02
/ condolences on your daughter's loss, Count
Mach1
01-17-2013, 05:52 PM
You folks know I'm a huge gun guy and a staunch defender of the Constitution, so I hope you'll lend me a little credence on this one:
What Obama has done here is nothing. It's certainly no reason to get all wound- up and start burying your guns.
His executive orders do nothing other than to enforce the laws that are already on the books, which we have all said at one point or another is a good thing. And his proposed legislation is never going to get passed. It won't even make it out of committee.
The only exception is possibly the so-called "gun show loophole", which, while completely ineffective, isn't actually a *bad* idea.
I think we should all take a deep breath and relax a little.
My $0.02
/ condolences on your daughter's loss, Count
Actually they do, about 4.5 billion worth.
At Least $4.5 Billion in New Spending for Gun Control
President Obama and Vice President Biden revealed their proposed reforms intended to reduce firearms related violence.
The proposal contains a mix of executive actions, regulations, and calls for Congress to act legislatively. The total package will cost at least $4.5 billion in new spending.
Among the new spending the president proposed:
• $4 billion for the president’s proposal “to help keep 15,000 cops on the streets in cities and towns across the country.” (That is roughly $266,000 per police officer.)
• $20 million to “give states stronger incentives to make [relevant] data available [for background checks] … “$50 million for this purpose in FY2014”
• “$14 million to help train 14,000 more police officers and other public and private personnel to respond to active shooter situations.”
• “$10 million for the Centers for Disease Control to conduct further research, including investigating the relationship between video games, media images, and violence.”
• $20 million to expand the National Violent Death Reporting System.
• $150 million to “put up to 1,000 new school resource officers and school counselors on the job.”
• “$30 million of one-time grants to states to help their school districts develop and implement emergency management plans.”
• $50 million to help 8,000 schools “create safer and more nurturing school climates.”
• $15 million to “provide “Mental Health First Aid” training for teachers.”
• $40 million for school districts to “work with law enforcement, mental health agencies, and other local organizations to assure students with mental health issues or other behavioral issues are referred to the services they need.”
• $25 million for state-based strategies that support “young people ages 16 to 25 with mental health or substance abuse issues.”
• $25 million to “offer students mental health services for trauma or anxiety, conflict resolution programs, and other school-based violence prevention strategies.”
• $50 million to “train social workers, counselors, psychologists, and other mental health professionals.”
The president’s proposals to ban high capacity magazines and “military-style assault weapons” will be costly to implement, if they are passed. Those costs are either unknown or haven’t been released.
The 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, which included the assault weapons and high capacity magazine ban (that expired in 2004), authorized the expenditure of $30.2 billion dollars, or about $45 billion in today’s dollars.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/least-45-billion-new-spending-gun-control_696120.html
GoSlash27
01-17-2013, 05:58 PM
Actually they do. They cost tax payers 4.5 billion dollars for doing nothing.
Hell, that's what our Federal government is best at. :usa2:
That certainly beats putting Eric Holder in charge of "keeping guns out of the hands of criminals". AmIright??
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