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GoSlash27
11-05-2012, 07:10 PM
Who ya got?
http://www.270towin.com

I'm predicting Obama 294/ Romney 244.

http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=bnOc

bayz101
11-05-2012, 07:46 PM
I see Romney winning Wisconsin and Ohio and making this a close, close race. I still believe Obama wins, and the country turns to shit in four years though.

The Patriot
11-05-2012, 10:51 PM
I'm not gonna lie. For the first time, I'm starting to think Romney will be the next President. I know anecdotal evidence doesn't stand up to polling data, but many people I know who voted for Obama in 2008 are now voting for Romney.

I'm still voting Johnson, but it should be interesting.

vader29
11-05-2012, 11:04 PM
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Craic
11-05-2012, 11:11 PM
I'm predicting we won't know for a few days, and it's going to get ugly. Not 2000 ugly, but ugly just the same.

LLT
11-06-2012, 01:09 AM
Ohio is the key.

It will be either 281 to 257 for Obama...or 275 to 263 for Romney

Wallace108
11-06-2012, 02:19 AM
I predicted a Romney landslide. I'm not going to back off of it at the last minute.

silver & black
11-06-2012, 10:20 AM
I think the handout crowd will squeek out the win for Obama. I've already done my part to fire him.

X-Terminator
11-06-2012, 10:57 AM
I've predicted an Obama win, and I'm sticking to that. And our country will be destroyed by 2016. I also think that Romney will eke out a win in the popular vote in a reversal of the 2000 election.

venom
11-06-2012, 11:09 AM
In a perfect world , I'll go with Romney 285 Obama 253

bayz101
11-06-2012, 11:16 AM
If Romney wins Ohio and comes close in Wisconsin, he'll win the election. I don't see it happening, though.

zulater
11-06-2012, 11:23 AM
No predictions, just hoping for change.

steelpride12
11-06-2012, 11:40 AM
I'm still wishing people took a Libertarian point of view and listened to Gary Johnson. I voted for him today and proud of it.

zulater
11-06-2012, 11:44 AM
I'm still wishing people took a Libertarian point of view and listened to Gary Johnson. I voted for him today and proud of it.

Then you're wishing for 4 more years of Obama. Writing your own name in would accomplish no less.

X-Terminator
11-06-2012, 11:55 AM
Then you're wishing for 4 more years of Obama. Writing your own name in would accomplish no less.

Why does this have to be the case? I thought we all wanted to vote for candidates based on principle, not because he's "not that other guy?" That kind of thinking is why we keep getting candidates like Obama and Romney. I say kudos to him for voting with his heart and mind and not with emotion, and obviously it doesn't mean he wishes for 4 more years of Obama.

steelpride12
11-06-2012, 11:59 AM
Then you're wishing for 4 more years of Obama. Writing your own name in would accomplish no less.

Johnson right away is going to appeal Obamacare and the entire healthcare plan. It should not be in the governments hands. "We The People" not "Your People."
He actually balanced budgets in New Mexico and never once raised taxes. Less Government is better and he knows this.

Being a college student I look at 3 major points, the deficit, schooling, and foreign policy and his are spot on.

I don't understand why people attempt to sway people here or give criticism, vote for who you think is right no matter what.

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Why does this have to be the case? I thought we all wanted to vote for candidates based on principle, not because he's "not that other guy?" That kind of thinking is why we keep getting candidates like Obama and Romney. I say kudos to him for voting with his heart and mind and not with emotion, and obviously it doesn't mean he wishes for 4 more years of Obama.

100% agree. Johnson is nothing like Obama and 3/4ths of his beliefs are the complete opposite of obama's views. It's not about popularity, it's about who you believe will make the largest impact on this country. Does Johnson have a single chance to win this election, of course not, but I feel like I did my duty voting for who I want not Obama or Romney because they are most popular.

BnG_Hevn
11-06-2012, 12:30 PM
You people who vote for third party totally miss the point, unless you see the point and ignore it. If you voted for non-Romney then you have ZERO right to complain about Obama.

Why? Because either Romney or Obama will win. Voting for anyone else is lessening the votes for one of those two. PERIOD.

It doesn't matter if you agree with the way it is or not, it just is the way it is. Simple as that.

If you were to vote for Romney but voted for third party then you voted for Obama.

And vice versa.

st33lersguy
11-06-2012, 12:32 PM
Too many stupid people in this country, Obama wins

steelpride12
11-06-2012, 12:42 PM
You people who vote for third party totally miss the point, unless you see the point and ignore it. If you voted for non-Romney then you have ZERO right to complain about Obama.

Why? Because either Romney or Obama will win. Voting for anyone else is lessening the votes for one of those two. PERIOD.

It doesn't matter if you agree with the way it is or not, it just is the way it is. Simple as that.


If you were to vote for Romney but voted for third party then you voted for Obama.

And vice versa.

It does matter. Why wouldn't you vote for who you wanted to. I don't like views from both sides and think both have huge flaws in their system. I've grown in a Libertarian family and that's how I stand, SO WHAT?! I understand Johnson won't win, but once again this is just a huge popularity contest and that's how I vote. He also knows he won't win, but that's ok because he is not going anywhere. His campaign right now is called "The 5%." That's all of the votes he is looking for and who knows you may see his name again someday down the road.

It's about who you believe in and what views you match up with as the best you can.

bayz101
11-06-2012, 12:48 PM
Quite honestly, I voted for Romney knowing full well that I disagree with a LOT of what he brings to the table, but honestly, I believe our country will die with four more years of Obama. With that in mind, I voted for the candidate who has a chance to beat Obama.

The Patriot
11-06-2012, 12:57 PM
You people who vote for third party totally miss the point, unless you see the point and ignore it. If you voted for non-Romney then you have ZERO right to complain about Obama.

Why? Because either Romney or Obama will win. Voting for anyone else is lessening the votes for one of those two. PERIOD.

It doesn't matter if you agree with the way it is or not, it just is the way it is. Simple as that.

If you were to vote for Romney but voted for third party then you voted for Obama.

And vice versa.

The world will still be here in 2016. Democrats and Republicans stay in business by scaring voters into thinking it won't be, but what's trully scary is some of the policies Democrats and Republicans agree on.

And why do Democrats and Republicans support wildly unpopular policies like the Patriot Act (funny name), poorly written bills like SOPA, and the NDAA? -Because they know if they scare voters come election time they'll come crawling back. If more voters took a stand and said "I won't support you until you change these outrageous policies," we might actually see some change in party platforms. Otherwise, you have no right to complain about these constitutional infringements. I didn't throw away my vote; these candidates did, and I proved it to them this morning by voting for Gary Johnson.

steelpride12
11-06-2012, 01:00 PM
The world will still be here in 2016. Democrats and Republicans stay in business by scaring voters into thinking it won't be, but what's trully scary is some of the policies Democrats and Republicans agree on.

And why do Democrats and Republicans support wildly unpopular policies like the Patriot Act (funny name), poorly written bills like SOPA, and the NDAA? -Because they know if they scare voters come election time they'll come crawling back. If more voters took a stand and said "I won't support you until you change these outrageous policies," we might actually see some change in party platforms. Otherwise, you have no right to complain about these constitutional infringements. I didn't throw away my vote; these candidates did, and I proved it to them this morning by voting for Gary Johnson.

Once again thank you as well and much agreed. As long as this country falls for the Republic and Democrat traps that keep dragging them back to vote for them every 4 years nothing will change.

fansince'76
11-06-2012, 02:56 PM
I've predicted an Obama win, and I'm sticking to that.

Same here. There are simply too many people in this country who live with a sense of entitlement and are under the extremely misguided delusion that corporations should only exist as a "jobs charity" and that the profit motive is pure evil. Obama's constant beating of the class warfare drum and all his nonsensical "wealth is evil" rhetoric has simply been too effective.

The Patriot
11-06-2012, 03:44 PM
Why the hell is the ballot in Florida 8 pages long?

st33lersguy
11-06-2012, 05:01 PM
Results to begin to be revealed in a few hours. I HOPE that the great destroyer Obama and his empty-headed sidekick Biden are booted out

steeldawg
11-06-2012, 05:36 PM
Also casted my vote third party, im not going to vote for obama or romney just because one is going to win thats crazy. People say they want change but always vote republican or democrat , the 2 party's that always do the the same thing.

GoSlash27
11-06-2012, 05:40 PM
Why the hell is the ballot in Florida 8 pages long?

The old folks down there need something to occupy their time and who wants to spring for a newspaper? :D

I voted for Johnson. Had I not done that, I would've written in Paul. Had I not done that, I would've written in Mickey Mouse. Had the Republicans nominated Gingrich, Paul, Perry, Bachmann, or Johnson, I would've voted R, but under no circumstances would I ever vote for Romney.

stillers4me
11-06-2012, 05:45 PM
Because the hanging chad excuse has already been used???

GBMelBlount
11-06-2012, 06:00 PM
A vote for a libertarian will always be a wasted vote. If votes were weighted by screaming and yelling and blind and ignorant bashing the libertarian vote would register much highter than the 1% or so they will have.

But unfortunately their yelling and screaming has caused libertarians to be labeled extremists which while their principles are not imo, a large portinon of the followers have certainly earned that moniker and deserve the miserable support level they have which is a direct result of unmitigated assholedness.

I do not mean this as an indictment for the majority of libertarians nor their platform, just a minority of the followers who are such complete asses they have runined it for the rest of their party. If a libertarian had a legitmate shot at winning, I would certainly consider voting for theme but sadly that will never happen as a few libertarian whackos have completely blown it for their cause.

That is just my opinion though. :usa:


Just praying Obama does not win...

GoSlash27
11-06-2012, 06:00 PM
Why does this have to be the case? I thought we all wanted to vote for candidates based on principle, not because he's "not that other guy?" That kind of thinking is why we keep getting candidates like Obama and Romney. I say kudos to him for voting with his heart and mind and not with emotion, and obviously it doesn't mean he wishes for 4 more years of Obama.

Werd.
Anyone else noticed how the candidates have been getting worse and worse/ less and less distinguishable every election cycle? Bush/ Clinton, Clinton/ Dole, Bush/ Gore, Bush/ Kerry, Obama/ McCain, Obama/ Romney...
At this rate, we'll be choosing between Lindsey Graham and Harry Reid before long. This is what "the lesser of two evils" gets you.

steelpride12
11-06-2012, 06:56 PM
A vote for a libertarian will always be a wasted vote. If votes were weighted by screaming and yelling and blind and ignorant bashing the libertarian vote would register much highter than the 1% or so they will have.

But unfortunately their yelling and screaming has caused libertarians to be labeled extremists which while their principles are not imo, a large portinon of the followers have certainly earned that moniker and deserve the miserable support level they have which is a direct result of unmitigated assholedness.

I do not mean this as an indictment for the majority of libertarians nor their platform, just a minority of the followers who are such complete asses they have runined it for the rest of their party. If a libertarian had a legitmate shot at winning, I would certainly consider voting for theme but sadly that will never happen as a few libertarian whackos have completely blown it for their cause.

That is just my opinion though. :usa:


Just praying Obama does not win...

You don't understand. Johnsons obviously knows he will not win, but instead wants the all important 5%. So tell me how this is not important: Attaining 5% ensures ballot access to all 50 states and DC in the next election and matching federal funds. These two checkpoints are huge in getting traction in the mainstream for a third party?

Vis
11-07-2012, 07:41 AM
LMAO...................