View Full Version : Fox News flip flops, says Affordable Care Act reduces the deficit
SteelerEmpire
09-08-2012, 11:14 AM
Wow. Obama's speech apparently even "turned" Fox news... lol ?!?!
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Fox News did something unthinkable during their coverage of the last day of the Democratic National Convention: They reported the truth about health care reform by stating it reduces the deficit.
LINK: http://www.examiner.com/article/fox-news-flip-flops-says-affordable-care-act-reduces-the-deficit?cid=db_articles
GBMelBlount
09-08-2012, 12:07 PM
LOL! Speaking of flip flops...
Obama:
4 years ago:
We need Change! I will cut the deficit in half in my first term or I will not run again
Today:
Let's stay the course! The increase of the national deficit of 5 trillion dollars during my term is not my fault but together we will fix things!
Nothing like deceitful lies and then blaming everyone else for your epic failure.
...now back to this uber important fox flip flop. :sofunny:
Mach1
09-08-2012, 12:37 PM
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stillers4me
09-08-2012, 12:40 PM
We voted no for God and Jeruselum before we voted yes....sortof.
X-Terminator
09-08-2012, 12:52 PM
Try reading that again, dude...
GoSlash27
09-08-2012, 03:59 PM
Wow. Obama's speech apparently even "turned" Fox news... lol ?!?!
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Fox News did something unthinkable during their coverage of the last day of the Democratic National Convention: They reported the truth about health care reform by stating it reduces the deficit.
LINK: http://www.examiner.com/article/fox-news-flip-flops-says-affordable-care-act-reduces-the-deficit?cid=db_articles
You and I must be operating on 2 wildly different definitions of "truth". Obamacare doesn't reduce the deficit. It pushes the Federal budget over a fiscal cliff into insolvency.
GoSlash27
09-08-2012, 04:04 PM
^ Apologies for calling you out personally above. You're just repeating what the article said. "CBO auditors" definitely did state that Obamacare reduces the deficit. Problem is the numbers that analysis was based on were lies. Now that the real figures are known, the CBO says the opposite.
I would recommend finding less-biased sources in the future. Not just to save yourself embarrassment, but to provide you a useful basis of facts instead of conjecture.
suitanim
09-08-2012, 07:15 PM
How old was that footage they used? It looked to me like it was at least two years old. At least 20 different independent sources have confirmed that when all is said and done, Obamacare will actually ADD hundreds of millions, perhaps even as much as trillions TO THE DEBT.
SteelerEmpire
09-08-2012, 07:37 PM
^ Apologies for calling you out personally above. You're just repeating what the article said. "CBO auditors" definitely did state that Obamacare reduces the deficit. Problem is the numbers that analysis was based on were lies. Now that the real figures are known, the CBO says the opposite.
I would recommend finding less-biased sources in the future. Not just to save yourself embarrassment, but to provide you a useful basis of facts instead of conjecture.
Don't worry about it. It's not that important bro... I have the mind set that I will do well weather a Dem OR Repub is in power. I don't play cheer leader for any of them because I have NO respect for politicians... they come and go... I depend on God; not Romney, Obama, the House or the Senate.
The WH
09-11-2012, 03:30 AM
I depend on God; not Romney, Obama, the House or the Senate.
Which derivation of the mythical being "god" do you depend on?
Which derivation of the mythical being "god" do you depend on?
WH,
Unless you are sure that you wont be "offended" and can live with the answer if someone replies "Allah"..."Jehovah"...etc. Then don't be surprised if they may be offended by your use of the word "Mythical".
Your question is the epitome of "flame-baiting". Lets keep this discussion civil and ON TOPIC......
BnG_Hevn
09-12-2012, 12:52 PM
WH,
Unless you are sure that you wont be "offended" and can live with the answer if someone replies "Allah"..."Jehovah"...etc. Then don't be surprised if they may be offended by your use of the word "Mythical".
Your question is the epitome of "flame-baiting". Lets keep this discussion civil and ON TOPIC......
Has SU censoring really gotten this bad?
He was merely asking a question about a post.
m-w.com
: based on or described in a myth especially as contrasted with history
2
usually mythical : existing only in the imagination : fictitious, imaginary <constructed a mythical all-star team>
3
usually mythic : having qualities suitable to myth : legendary <the twilight of a mythic professional career — Clayton Riley>
Being a devils advocate, there is no "proof" that any God exists; it is blind faith. Simple as that.
As for the censorship, maybe he should have asked this question, eh?
Which derivation of the mythical being "god" do you depend on to give you the resolve to endure whichever party rules the WH?
It's still a legit question. Or at least in a less-dictated environment.
steeldawg
09-12-2012, 02:49 PM
Has SU censoring really gotten this bad?
He was merely asking a question about a post.
m-w.com
: based on or described in a myth especially as contrasted with history
2
usually mythical : existing only in the imagination : fictitious, imaginary <constructed a mythical all-star team>
3
usually mythic : having qualities suitable to myth : legendary <the twilight of a mythic professional career — Clayton Riley>
Being a devils advocate, there is no "proof" that any God exists; it is blind faith. Simple as that.
As for the censorship, maybe he should have asked this question, eh?
Which derivation of the mythical being "god" do you depend on to give you the resolve to endure whichever party rules the WH?
It's still a legit question. Or at least in a less-dictated environment.
Very nicely said sir, Im glad someone said it.
X-Terminator
09-12-2012, 04:42 PM
Has SU censoring really gotten this bad?
He was merely asking a question about a post.
m-w.com
: based on or described in a myth especially as contrasted with history
2
usually mythical : existing only in the imagination : fictitious, imaginary <constructed a mythical all-star team>
3
usually mythic : having qualities suitable to myth : legendary <the twilight of a mythic professional career — Clayton Riley>
Being a devils advocate, there is no "proof" that any God exists; it is blind faith. Simple as that.
As for the censorship, maybe he should have asked this question, eh?
Which derivation of the mythical being "god" do you depend on to give you the resolve to endure whichever party rules the WH?
It's still a legit question. Or at least in a less-dictated environment.
There is no censorship here, so you can cut that right out. What LLT is trying to say is that there will be people who will get offended because atheists have a tendency to be just as jaded and inflexible and condescending as they think religious people are. So if you're going to ask a question like that AND in that manner, you'd better be prepared for whatever negative response you receive.
GBMelBlount
09-12-2012, 05:24 PM
There is no censorship here, so you can cut that right out. What LLT is trying to say is that there will be people who will get offended because atheists have a tendency to be just as jaded and inflexible and condescending as they think religious people are. So if you're going to ask a question like that AND in that manner, you'd better be prepared for whatever negative response you receive.
Agreed.
I think the issue is that question appeared to be asked in a way that was designed for no other purpose than to stir the pot.
It was largely irrelevant to the thread.
smokin3000gt
09-12-2012, 05:51 PM
There is no censorship here, so you can cut that right out. What LLT is trying to say is that there will be people who will get offended because atheists have a tendency to be just as jaded and inflexible and condescending as they think religious people are. So if you're going to ask a question like that AND in that manner, you'd better be prepared for whatever negative response you receive.
Agreed.
The issue is that it was framed for no other purpose than shit stirring imo.
It is the type of post you worry has made you dumber due to reading it.
Although my wife would argue that is not possible.
+1
Putting God in the same category as bigfoot is bound to stir the pot, especially in an already heated thread.
starc
03-16-2013, 09:04 AM
While starting the discussion again, I guess It's time for Americans to stop putting business before the pressing needs of our constituents and our country. It is time to end their efforts to strip Republicans of required, reasonably priced health care benefits.
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