TomKat Divorce

[suitanim]

First off, I'm puking in my mouth a little for using that pop media phrase, but it gets attention. I could actually care less if two Hollyweird twits get divorced or whatever. What I am interested in is how this might finally shine a bright spotlight on the cockroaches behind and involved in Scientology.

I'm not going to do too much in the way of exposition here other that to say L. Ron Hubbard was a fraud and charlatan, and all the people around him knew it. He invented some wacky self-help system, and decided he could escape paying taxes by calling it a religion. Being a sci-fi writer, he just made some crazy shit up, and, this being America, home of religious freedom, it passed muster. Anyone can look it up and see what a stinking crock of pig shit it is, but there is another side to it that I hope comes out.

Hubbard was such a weirdo that even the fringe occultists and super-weirdos he hung out with thought him a creep and a con artist. What a lot of people don't know was that he actually ripped off some of his ideas from Aleister Crowley, and was heavily involved in his OTO "church". I've read some of Jack Parson's writings (and THAT is an interesting dude...many people who knew him were Satanists and heavily involved in the occult and they all to a one thought he was the most evil person they ever met. He was a literal rocket scientist, and founded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. In some of his writings he claimed to have summoned the devil himself), and both he and Crowley considered Hubbard a common crook.

Anyway, what's-her-head is suing for divorce because Tom Cruise is a 100% certified, full-bore Scientology freak. He's like the grand Pooh-bah of the whole shebang (almost certainly due to the millions he funnels to the "church"), and she was worried about their kid being brainwashed by these freaks. The whole thing really needs exposed and tried in the court of public opinion. They are dangerous cultists with a long history of kidnapping, brainwashing, and maybe even murder. I hope this divorce does ONE good thing and brings all this out into the open once and for all...

(Note: I placed this here for the religious/political nature of the subject)

[ALLD]

It should be called the church of Narcissism.

[The Patriot]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

[zulater]

South Park did a great episode on Scientology. :lol:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s09e12-trapped-in-the-closet

[zulater]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapped_in_the_Closet_(South_Park)

[Bluecoat96]

Obligatory


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

You have to follow this up with Jerry O'Connell's spoof.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Zv3X_Hlck

[stillers4me]

Matt, I 'm watching the Tom Cruise video and looking up at your avatar and I about spit all over my keyboard. :lol:

[oneforthetoe]

If Scientology wasn't so closely related to Hollywood, there would be movie after movie made exposing the fraud that it is.

As for the present issue, Run Katie, Run.

[X-Terminator]

Well Katie, what did you expect when you married him? You should have run as far away from him as you could back then.

I remember that South Park episode. I also remember Issac Hayes quitting the show because of it, because God forbid someone make fun of Scientology and the fraud that it is. It's funny that the 2 episodes that got the show in trouble the most were the ones on Scientology and showing the prophet Muhammad, which also happen to be the 2 "religions" that are seemingly off-limits to criticism. Christians and Jews, however, can be made fun of as much as you like.

[Devilsdancefloor]

i wouldnt be surprised that in a 6 to 12 months holmes is found dead from a apparent suicide.

[Bluecoat96]

Matt, I 'm watching the Tom Cruise video and looking up at your avatar and I about spit all over my keyboard. :lol:


Lol! I think My daughter's expression sums up my thoughts on Tom Cruise perfectly.

[suitanim]

Exposition on SeaOrg:

http://exscientologykids.com/seaorg.html

What's wrong with the Sea Org, and why do critics oppose it?
Critics believe that the Sea Organization is one of the most abusive groups in the world. The abuses that go on daily in the Sea Org are all that more egregious because, due to Scientology's religious status, law enforcement is reticent to investigate. Here are just a few aspects of Sea Org life, taken from hundreds of personal testimonials from ex-Sea Org members, that are decried by critics:
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifSea Org members are not permitted to have children while working for the organization. Couples who get pregnant are either pressured to abort the baby, or they must leave. Often, these people have been in the Sea Org so long, they have nowhere to go, no resume outside of Scientology, no job experience, no finances, no property, and no non-Scientology friends.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifAnyone who leaves the Sea Org without permission is declared a Suppressive Person by the Church of Scientology, and is ostracized from family, friends, and loved ones. It is very difficult to get permission to leave the Sea Org, and one cannot simply quit and then walk out the door. The "approved" leaving process involves up to 3 years of hard physical labor, E-metered confessionals, social isolation and group pressure.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifSea Org members live in horrible conditions. Unmarried members never have rooms to themselves, regardless of age, but instead live in small rooms with 3-12 other members. Members are often denied proper sleep and are often forced to skip meals because of the pressures of the job.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifSea Org members are denied proper medical care. They are not provided health insurance, are not given sick days, and the Sea Org will not purchase their medicine for them. If a free clinic won't provide the medicine someone needs, the Sea Org management won't shoulder the costs. There are numerous cases (http://www.whyaretheydead.net) of people who have become very ill in the Sea Org, or who had pre-existing medical conditions, and were not allowed to seek medical treatment.
Sickness is also treated as the fault of the sick person, because Scientologists believe that the only reason someone gets sick is that they are connected to a Suppressive Person. They believe that you can decide not to get sick. So when someone becomes ill, they are treated as though they have done something wrong by not "handling" the situation.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifBecause Scientology has religious status in many countries, labor laws do not apply to the Sea Org. Therefore, Sea Org members have no protection from long and abusive work hours. Many work 17-20 hours days because of the pressures of the job. Anyone who complains is treated as though they are "not getting with the program", "unethical", or "not on board". There are thousands of minors working under these conditions in the Sea Org.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifSea Org members rarely have more than a few hours off a week. Even during this off-time, they are not permitted to go far from the compound where they live and work. If managements decides that they have not worked hard enough, they are not allowed time off for Christmas, New Years, birthdays or national holidays.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifAs only married members get rooms to themselves, many children who join the Sea Org marry very young - sometimes at 15 or 16 years of age - just so that they can have a room to themselves.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifSea Org members do not have their own phone numbers (unless they are allowed a cell phone), may not watch TV, are not allowed to own a personal computer with internet connections, and are only infrequently allowed to watch pre-approved movies.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifSpouses and family members in the Sea Org rarely see each other. The Sea Org management reserves the right to ship different family members off to work in other countries or areas without any approval from the spouse. Husbands may be sent away from their wives, mothers may be sent away from their children, etc. If the family complains, they are punished.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifFamilies who have members in the Sea Org and other members who are not in the Sea Org rarely see each other. Mothers and fathers with children in the Sea Org may not call them directly, but must call the organization and ask to speak with them.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifLetters that Sea Org members write to their families, and letters that they receive from the outside, are screened by Sea Org censors for "entheta" (unhappiness, negativity) before they are passed on. Anyone complaining of unhappiness in the Sea Org in their letters is disciplined, and the letter is not delivered. If a family member sends a letter to someone inside expressing concern about the conditions there, the censor pressures the intended letter recipient to "handle" the sender, often with a monitored phone call in which they are made to say how happy they are, and that everything is going fine.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifIf a Sea Org member commits a punishable offense, they are sent to the RPF, or Rehabilitation Project Force, which is a sort of boot camp for "bad" Sea Org members. People on the RPF may only eat the food left over after the other SO members have eaten, may not speak to a Sea Org member unless spoken to, are not allowed to walk (they must run everywhere), are not allowed holidays, receive even less pay than SO members, and are required to do hard manual labor for long hours. People can be assigned to the RPF for up to 10 years.
http://exscientologykids.com/img/dot.gifMembers are put under tremendous psychological pressure. They are expected work as hard as need be without complaint, sacrificing food, sleep, family, and off hours. Often the things they are asked to do are beyond the realm of human possibility, and yet they are criticized for not getting these things done, even when they've tried as hard as they possibly can. Many Sea Org members who leave cite this as one of the most debilitating aspects of the Sea Org - they work and work and work, and yet their boss tells them it is never good enough. Their bosses, of course, are under exactly the same kind of pressure from their bosses, who are under the same from theirs, and so forth.

[fansince'76]

When a Scientologist joins the Sea Org, he signs a contract agreeing to serve for 1 billion years (no typo - 1,000,000,000 years). Because Scientologists believe in re-incarnation, the Sea Org member is expected to return and serve again in his or her next life.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[X-Terminator]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's both funny and sad that there are enough weak-minded people to buy into that insanity. If that was a Christian organization, the Feds wouldn't have given a shit about its religious status and shut it down a long time ago. Hell, they burned down the Waco compound for far less than that.

[suitanim]

Scientology fights back against "free speech on the internet"....

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/church-scientology-asks-followers-censor-comments-160104800.html