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polamalubeast
04-28-2012, 02:31 PM
He can be a Darren Sproles type guy

steelreserve
04-28-2012, 02:39 PM
Let's hope that's what he is, and not a Willie Parker type guy.

polamalubeast
04-28-2012, 02:40 PM
why?

Willie Parker has been very good for the Steelers during 3 years

SMR
04-28-2012, 02:40 PM
Let's hope that's what he is, and not a Willie Parker type guy.

I 2nd that!

Psycho Ward 86
04-28-2012, 02:44 PM
Good role player! More dynamic than Baron Batch. I expect one of them to not make the roster.

Godfather
04-28-2012, 02:45 PM
why?

Willie Parker has been very good for the Steelers during 3 years

Yep. He'd still be our feature back if he hadn't suffered a freak injury.

I like the pick. We're just drafting for depth in rounds 5 and 7 anyway.

Edman
04-28-2012, 02:45 PM
Looks like a Todd Haley experiment.

steelreserve
04-28-2012, 02:46 PM
why?

Willie Parker has been very good for the Steelers during 3 years

Don't get me started on Parker ... but basically all he did was put up good fantasy numbers. Couldn't catch, couldn't block, couldn't really run. 75% of his runs were probably for 1 yard or less, then he made up for it on the stat sheet with the occasional 20-yard run. Looks great on paper, but really just kills drives and makes the offense jerky and stilted. First year without Parker as the main starter, we won the Super Bowl.

st33lersguy
04-28-2012, 02:55 PM
I thought this pick was better served drafting a DB. I don't know how he fits on the roster with all the RBs we have

bayz101
04-28-2012, 03:02 PM
I thought this pick was better served drafting a DB. I don't know how he fits on the roster with all the RBs we have

If Mewelde and Mendenhall aren't in, he fits in just fine. Draft isn't deep at CB, and Chris Rainey was a BPA at this point. He's also a good special teams player, and i'm sure he'll be making kick and punt returns, limiting Sanders chances of getting injured, as Brown's no longer the return man. Great pick, it'll pay off.

GBMelBlount
04-28-2012, 03:05 PM
If Mewelde and Mendenhall aren't in, he fits in just fine.

Draft isn't deep at CB, and Chris Rainey was a BPA at this point.

He's also a good special teams player,

and i'm sure he'll be making kick and punt returns, limiting Sanders chances of getting injured, as Brown's no longer the return man.

Great pick, it'll pay off.

I think the pick made good sense...as far as paying off, I sure hope so.

Devilsdancefloor
04-28-2012, 03:07 PM
C'mon gotta love he hate me lil brother! :lol: he has already thrown the gauntlet down with wallace saying he is faster than him!!

bayz101
04-28-2012, 03:11 PM
I think the pick made good sense...as far as paying, I sure hope so.

The thing is, we entered the season with a HUGE stable of running backs. At the end of the season we we're without our Starting Running Back Mendenhall, and a veteran backup in Mewelde Moore. Mewelde is reportedly not returning, and Mendenhall with start the season on the PuP. This pick makes sense for depth, and it makes sense in the sense that we'll need another return guy to sit behind or in front of Sanders. Sanders may very well be a starter for us next year if he remains healthy, and if that's the case, they'll probably want to limit his chance of injury by throwing the rookie into return duties.

Psycho Ward 86
04-28-2012, 03:13 PM
I know he looks like an idiot for saying he expected to run a 4.1 40 yard dash (ran a 4.45 official) but the kid has RIDICULOUS change of direction speed if you've watched him play

bayz101
04-28-2012, 03:16 PM
I know he looks like an idiot for saying he expected to run a 4.1 40 yard dash (ran a 4.45 official) but the kid has RIDICULOUS change of direction speed if you've watched him play

He's a good friend of Jeff Demps, and I recall Demps saying that he's lost races to Rainey three or four times. Demps is FAST in pads, but he decided to go into the Olympics rather than the NFL:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW4X664GRt0

Steeldude
04-28-2012, 03:17 PM
Waste of a pick. They drafted Batch for this role last season. He is also a headcase being as he was arrested for stalking and threatening his ex-g/f.

ShutDown24
04-28-2012, 03:17 PM
What the hell was wrong with Parker? When that dude was in his prime he was one of the best backs in the league. If Rainey has a Willie Parker type career I'll be thrilled.

Rainey is Dexter McCluster - but faster.

polamalubeast
04-28-2012, 03:20 PM
Waste of a pick. They drafted Batch for this role last season. He is also a headcase being as he was arrested for stalking and threatening his ex-g/f.

I heard the same thing when the Steelers had drafted Antonio Brown in 2010

steelreserve
04-28-2012, 03:20 PM
What the hell was wrong with Parker? When that dude was in his prime he was one of the best backs in the league. If Rainey has a Willie Parker type career I'll be thrilled.

A lot, and no he wasn't even close, and I wouldn't. Anyway, hopefully it's a moot point.

Steeldude
04-28-2012, 03:22 PM
I heard the same thing when the Steelers had drafted Antonio Brown in 2010

I heard the same thing when they drafted Alonzo Jackson. See how that works?

steelreserve
04-28-2012, 03:22 PM
I thought this pick was better served drafting a DB. I don't know how he fits on the roster with all the RBs we have

Oh yeah, that's just what we need, another 5th-round CB that doesn't pan out.

Now that we've taken care of the OL and hopefully NT (finally), I'd say DB has got to be one of the top priorities for the early rounds next year. Our guys aren't getting any younger back there, either.

Psycho Ward 86
04-28-2012, 03:24 PM
I thought this pick was better served drafting a DB. I don't know how he fits on the roster with all the RBs we have

What RB's. We know Redman can be a great starter, Memo doesnt look like he's coming back and wasnt that good anymore anyways, we dont know how productive Mendenhall will be after his injury, and we barely know anything about Dwyer and Clay. Dont make anyone laugh by gushing about what Dwyer and Clay can do because we all know they've hardly done anything yet in the NFL. Dwyer ripped off one long run to put him over 100 against a beatdown against the titans and Clay scored a TD against the worst run defense in the league. If Redman went down for good, would you honestly be brimming with confidence about having dwyer and clay starting for the long run?

Batch is in the same boat as Mendenhall except we havent seen him play a down yet. Granted, Rainey will probably just be more of a role player but hey, an extra gadget weapon for us will be a great add on with the O-line talent we just got

bayz101
04-28-2012, 03:25 PM
A lot, and no he wasn't even close, and I wouldn't. Anyway, hopefully it's a moot point.

:poop:

GBMelBlount
04-28-2012, 03:27 PM
Waste of a pick. They drafted Batch for this role last season. He is also a headcase being as he was arrested for stalking and threatening his ex-g/f.

C'mon, ease up on the "eeyor" attitude Steeldude. :)

You can't call him a bust because of Batch or a run in with his girlfriend?

After the 3rd round it's a virtual crap shoot anyway.

ShutDown24
04-28-2012, 03:36 PM
A lot, and no he wasn't even close, and I wouldn't. Anyway, hopefully it's a moot point.

I'm not going to get in a big Parker debate here, but I can't let it slide completely. He lacked power and couldn't catch, but he was at least an average blocker. And when his vision was on he was ridiculously dynamic as a pure ball carrier. You can dislike his skills all you want, that's a matter of opinion - but the production cannot be disputed. He had some fantastic years.

bayz101
04-28-2012, 03:38 PM
I'm not going to get in a big Parker debate here, but I can't let it slide completely. He lacked power and couldn't catch, but he was at least an average blocker. And when his vision was on he was ridiculously dynamic as a pure ball carrier. You can dislike his skills all you want, that's a matter of opinion - but the production cannot be disputed. He had some fantastic years.

I'm pretty sure he holds the record for longest rushing touchdown in the Super Bowl, EVER. It's silly to say he wasn't effective, he was easily one of the best Running Backs in the NFL in his prime, not just the best on our Roster.

86WARD
04-28-2012, 03:40 PM
What the hell was wrong with Parker? When that dude was in his prime he was one of the best backs in the league. If Rainey has a Willie Parker type career I'll be thrilled.

Rainey is Dexter McCluster - but faster.

Everything above QFT!!!

X-Terminator
04-28-2012, 03:42 PM
C'mon, ease up on the "eeyor" attitude Steeldude. :)

You can't call him a bust because of Batch or a run in with his girlfriend?

After the 3rd round it's a virtual crap shoot anyway.

And that is really the bottom line. Whining about a 5th-round pick is a waste of time and space, when 95% of them don't even make it to the practice squad.

Steeldude
04-28-2012, 03:42 PM
You can't call him a bust because of Batch or a run in with his girlfriend?

After the 3rd round it's a virtual crap shoot anyway.

I didn't call him a bust. You are right, it is a crap shoot. I feel it would have been better to roll the dice on a DB. Also, even though it's a K, but I would have rather used it on Greg Zuerlein.

steelreserve
04-28-2012, 03:49 PM
I'm not going to get in a big Parker debate here, but I can't let it slide completely. He lacked power and couldn't catch, but he was at least an average blocker. And when his vision was on he was ridiculously dynamic as a pure ball carrier. You can dislike his skills all you want, that's a matter of opinion - but the production cannot be disputed. He had some fantastic years.

All those "great" years that Parker had really strike me as years where he did a great job filling out a stat sheet but detracted from our efforts to win important games. He got the great majority of his yards, and had almost every one of his "big games," against shitty opponents who we could overpower in every phase of the game. Inevitably, when we played against another winning team, it was 21 yards on 19 carries. You can look this up in the game logs if you really want to; it's all there plain as day. So yes, his production can be disputed, because most of it was irrelevant fantasy football yardage. The fact that he had poor skills probably had a lot to do with that.

At any rate, yeah, we're probably not going to agree and I've made my point for everyone to hear, so there's probably no use dragging this on. Out of respect for keeping things somewhat on-topic, I'm going to shut up about Parker now.

polamalubeast
04-28-2012, 03:57 PM
All those "great" years that Parker had really strike me as years where he did a great job filling out a stat sheet but detracted from our efforts to win important games. He got the great majority of his yards, and had almost every one of his "big games," against shitty opponents who we could overpower in every phase of the game. Inevitably, when we played against another winning team, it was 21 yards on 19 carries. You can look this up in the game logs if you really want to; it's all there plain as day. So yes, his production can be disputed, because most of it was irrelevant fantasy football yardage. The fact that he had poor skills probably had a lot to do with that.

At any rate, yeah, we're probably not going to agree and I've made my point for everyone to hear, so there's probably no use dragging this on. Out of respect for keeping things somewhat on-topic, I'm going to shut up about Parker now.



It's true that Parker was not very good against the Ravens, but it is very rare to see a RB which have a good game against the Ravens defense

Parker had a very good career for an undrafted player, but unfortunately he was not the same player after his injury against the Rams in 2007

Psycho Ward 86
04-28-2012, 04:38 PM
It's true that Parker was not very good against the Ravens, but it is very rare to see a RB which have a good game against the Ravens defense

Parker had a very good career for an undrafted player, but unfortunately he was not the same player after his injury against the Rams in 2007

lol he had a lot of bad games against decent to good defenses other than the ravens

ALLD
04-28-2012, 04:45 PM
He is Mewelde Moore's replacement.

Psycho Ward 86
04-28-2012, 04:55 PM
He is Mewelde Moore's replacement.

he's way more dynamic than Moore and not as big and tenacious of an A or B gap runner. More Dexter McCluster than Moore.

atlsteelers
04-28-2012, 06:41 PM
Wow, rainy, the dude is a stud, but he might also threaten to kill his girlfriend. Rainy hopefully will work out similar to percy harvin. The kid was what was wrong with meyer @ florida. Rainy makes adams an all american role model.

86WARD
04-28-2012, 07:09 PM
Far from Mewelde Moore. Rainey isn't running in between the tackles and he's not pass protecting...

Could be a great pick IMO...

steelerdude15
04-28-2012, 08:09 PM
I heard the same thing when they drafted Alonzo Jackson. See how that works?

Any draft pick can be a waste or to be politically correct, a risk.

oneforthetoe
04-28-2012, 08:18 PM
Suddeness and glide.

polamalubeast
04-28-2012, 08:51 PM
Press Conference - 5th Round - Todd Haley

http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/videos/Press-Conference---5th-Round---Todd-Haley/d8265060-031f-4d1f-95ac-fefb5d93a90f

Chidi29
04-28-2012, 09:16 PM
Talk about a kid that's dynamic. Something we haven't had at running back since Parker.

A guy that offers a lot of options on offense and special teams. Like Haley talked about, put him in the backfield, put him in the slot, run a draw, throw a screen his way, have him active in the return game.

You love versatility in the later rounds and Rainey is chalk full of it. I'm excited.

Edman
04-28-2012, 09:31 PM
Parker was not "Dynamic". He was just a very fast straightline runner.

A dynamic player is one who commands respect and notice, who makes plays from everywhere on the field. A guy who makes Defenses say "Hey, we better watch out for him." Parker didn't scare Defenses, and neither does Mendenhall.

Chidi29
04-28-2012, 09:32 PM
Parker was not "Dynamic". He was just a very fast straightline runner.

A dynamic player is one who commands respect and notice, who makes plays from everywhere on the field. A guy who makes Defenses say "Hey, we better watch out for him." Parker didn't scare Defenses, and neither does Mendenhall.

I think they were both dynamic though Rainey is definitely more versatile. Which from that perspective, makes him more of a threat.

7willBheaven
04-28-2012, 09:42 PM
Good role player! More dynamic than Baron Batch. I expect one of them to not make the roster.

I could see it being Mendy on PUP...Redman, Dwyer, Batch and Rainey....Clay should be able to go back to the PS and Moore wasnt brought back (but if someone went down he's only a call away).

GBMelBlount
04-28-2012, 10:32 PM
Talk about a kid that's dynamic. Something we haven't had at running back since Parker.

A guy that offers a lot of options on offense and special teams. Like Haley talked about, put him in the backfield, put him in the slot, run a draw, throw a screen his way, have him active in the return game.

You love versatility in the later rounds and Rainey is chalk full of it. I'm excited.

A lot is athleticism and versatility at this point.

It was a good pick.

ShutDown24
04-29-2012, 05:01 AM
Talk about a kid that's dynamic. Something we haven't had at running back since Parker.

A guy that offers a lot of options on offense and special teams. Like Haley talked about, put him in the backfield, put him in the slot, run a draw, throw a screen his way, have him active in the return game.

You love versatility in the later rounds and Rainey is chalk full of it. I'm excited.

I can't wait to see him line up in the backfield, motion out and run a 9.

suitanim
04-29-2012, 08:11 AM
I like it because of the versatility. He can play a little WR if need be, a little 3rd down back, and he can catch out of the backfield as well. Plus he looks like a potentially explosive returner. It's a bit of a luxury pick, but since we had addressed our other glaring needs, it made perfect sense...

Count Steeler
04-29-2012, 10:25 AM
In Haley's press on him, he kept using "explosive" to describe Rainey. I think Haley has some interesting plans for him.

And he will return punts and perhaps KOs. But who really returns KOs anymore.

BigNastyDefense
04-29-2012, 11:37 AM
I like the pick for the following reasons:

1. Speed - The guy has track star speed and it actually does translate the the football field. He's an edge runner, he isn't very good between the tackles and is a bad blocker, but is a threat to take it to the endzone when he gets it to the outside.

2. Elusiveness - The guy can cut on a dime and is deadly in open space. He can "break someone's ankles" and then take off like a rocket.

3. Special Teams - He can return kicks and punts. I doubt the Steelers want to put Brown back there all season when he's needed as the #2 (or even #1) wide receiver on offense. With Sanders' injury history, they might not want to put him in the position to get blown up on special teams. Rainey proved to be a dynamic return man at Florida, and I would rather put him out there than Brown or Sanders who are at worst our #2 & #3 receivers.

4. Receiving Skills - He can catch the ball out of the backfield and even played in the slot receiver position at Florida. There is the chance that if he isn't working out at RB, he could be moved to play receiver.

5. Injury at RB - Right now, the only RB we know anything about that's guaranteed to be ready for the start of the season is Redman, who is starter quality. Mendenhall might not be ready to start the season recovering from his torn ACL. Baron Batch is also coming off of a torn ACL and we never got to see what he could do. Dwyer in two seasons has 151 yards and no touchdowns, so he's still an unknown. John Clay isn't much more than a power short yardage/goal line back and had just 41 yards and 1 TD last season. Chad Spann has absolutely no NFL stats. I don't expect us to keep both Batch & Dwyer...and this is likely Mendenhall's final season with the Steelers and nobody knows when he'd be ready to play this season if at all.

In the end, for a fifth round pick, I think it's pretty damn good.