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suitanim
04-12-2012, 12:30 PM
This was inevitable. Romney has to put his wife out there as his numbers among women are down, and the left wastes no time in slinking into the mud and attacking her. Michelle Obama said "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my Country" and gets a pass, Ann Romney raises five kids, battled and beat cancer, and lives with MS and gets attacked by some blowhard for it.

Sad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/hilary-rosen-ann-romney_n_1419506.html

Mach1
04-12-2012, 12:37 PM
Didn't read the article huffingtonpost is all I needed to see.

Can't run on your record so wife's and children are fair game.
Like everything obaaama touches this should backfire nicely.

SteelerEmpire
04-12-2012, 12:41 PM
A stay at home mom is one of the most Psychologically demanding jobs on the planet... regardless if you have maids, butlers, and other servants helping.

venom
04-12-2012, 12:42 PM
This was inevitable. Romney has to put his wife out there as his numbers among women are down, and the left wastes no time in slinking into the mud and attacking her. Michelle Obama said "For the first time in my life I'm proud of my Country" and gets a pass, Ann Romney raises five kids, battled and beat cancer, and lives with MS and gets attacked by some blowhard for it.

Sad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/hilary-rosen-ann-romney_n_1419506.html

And we were supposed to be surprised ?

suitanim
04-12-2012, 12:45 PM
I purposefully chose huffington post instead of a right wing outlet. Even a liberal slanting organization can't hide the loathsome and despicable nature of this twit...

ShutDown24
04-12-2012, 12:49 PM
Nothing against the topic starters or users who want to talk politics... But I'm seriously getting tired of coming here and seeing more threads with "Obama" in the title than anything football related.

suitanim
04-12-2012, 12:54 PM
Nothing against the topic starters or users who want to talk politics... But I'm seriously getting tired of coming here and seeing more threads with "Obama" in the title than anything football related.

The Forum is entitled "The Soapbox: Political Discussions only, please".

Why would we talk football in a political forum? What forum would you like political discussion in if, um, not the POLITICAL FORUM?

suitanim
04-12-2012, 12:56 PM
I am, quite literally, breathless with anticipation.

venom
04-12-2012, 01:02 PM
She does work for CNN - not shocked

X-Terminator
04-12-2012, 01:22 PM
Nothing against the topic starters or users who want to talk politics... But I'm seriously getting tired of coming here and seeing more threads with "Obama" in the title than anything football related.

Well, if you don't want to see these threads on the front page, I can make this forum disappear for you in about 2 minutes if you'd like. Besides, it's the off-season...what do you expect?

ShutDown24
04-12-2012, 06:43 PM
Well, if you don't want to see these threads on the front page, I can make this forum disappear for you in about 2 minutes if you'd like. Besides, it's the off-season...what do you expect?


The Forum is entitled "The Soapbox: Political Discussions only, please".

Why would we talk football in a political forum? What forum would you like political discussion in if, um, not the POLITICAL FORUM?

I just knew someone would find some way to take offence to that post. Almost didn't go through with it, but I did. Guess I shouldn't have given the benefit of doubt.


Nothing against the topic starters or users who want to talk politics... But I'm seriously getting tired of coming here and seeing more threads with "Obama" in the title than anything football related.

Apparently people can't recognize this as a subtle commentary on society as opposed to "flaming". It's not like I made it obvious or anything. Oh well. I guess I'll just leave the political discussion to those who are - oh so undoubtedly - more intelligent than I.

Count Steeler
04-12-2012, 06:58 PM
I would agree with you Shutdown, were it not for the impending election that could, without exaggeration, destroy your nation. I am Canadian, but I also know that when the US sneezes, we catch a cold. I dread to see where this continent will be after 4 more years of Obama. Especially considering he won't give a shit about getting reelected, so the real Obama will come forth, not the restrained, trying to get reelected version. I shudder to think what lies ahead.

ShutDown24
04-12-2012, 07:10 PM
I would agree with you Shutdown, were it not for the impending election that could, without exaggeration, destroy your nation. I am Canadian, but I also know that when the US sneezes, we catch a cold. I dread to see where this continent will be after 4 more years of Obama. Especially considering he won't give a shit about getting reelected, so the real Obama will come forth, not the restrained, trying to get reelected version. I shudder to think what lies ahead.

I absolutely agree. The point I was trying to make, although evidently not nearly clear enough, is that it's terribly sad that we are discussing our President in such a manner. Perhaps I'm old fashioned, but I believe the position should carry respect and dignity... which is something that hasn't been true for quite some time. I don't think Barack Obama is much of a president, and I hope he falls to Romney - although I'm not a fan of Romney much either. My problem with American politics, and really, worldwide politics as an entirety at this juncture, is that it's more about the who than it is the what. And that is extremely disturbing. I don't want to waste my time on Obama Vs. Romney, I'd rather spend my precious minutes in this life discussing Obama's beliefs Vs. Romney's beliefs, you know, things and decisions that could actually effect the results we see - or don't see - as a nation. Unfortunately "beliefs" do not seem to exist any longer. Politicians auction out their policy to the highest bidder - and that is from the top down. I've seen first hand how state level government works in this country and it's a very flawed system. More so than most even realize.

So to cut out the fat, I attempted to comment, in a simpler manner than this, how politics should not be about the faux men and women in office themselves - but rather what they stand for, and that's very much an impossibility at this point. Unfortunately my meaning wasn't realized, so let me try again: By discussing "Obama" so frequently I don't know that we're seeing the whole picture. There are so many issues regarding politics that are so much more thought provoking than the politicians themselves. When I come to SU and see so many topics discussing Obama, I can't help but get the feeling that we're leaving what's important behind. I recognize that the election is significant, but nontheless, my points have been made. I guess I just don't care that Ann Romney raises five kids. How her husband will effect the decisions made by my government carries much more weight with me.

I sincerly hope this post is not misinterpreted.

zulater
04-12-2012, 07:27 PM
Obama, the First Lady, and many others in his team were quick to get out in front of this and disavow the comments of Rosen. So I can't get too up in arms over it. I'm sure before this is all through some member(s) of Romney team will say something regrettable that he'll have to distance himself from too.

Unless someone can link this to someone higher up in the campaign where this meant to be thrown out there as a clear talking point then I'll just give them a Mulligan on this one and attribute it to a rogue member of the team.

suitanim
04-13-2012, 05:36 AM
Obama, the First Lady, and many others in his team were quick to get out in front of this and disavow the comments of Rosen. So I can't get too up in arms over it. I'm sure before this is all through some member(s) of Romney team will say something regrettable that he'll have to distance himself from too.

Unless someone can link this to someone higher up in the campaign where this meant to be thrown out there as a clear talking point then I'll just give them a Mulligan on this one and attribute it to a rogue member of the team.


The problem with the comment was that instead of backpeddling, this Rosen woman doubled down and stood her ground and refused to admit she was wrong or even apologize.

Am I allowed to post politics in the political forum, though? Do I need permission or something...?

ShutDown24
04-13-2012, 06:58 AM
The problem with the comment was that instead of backpeddling, this Rosen woman doubled down and stood her ground and refused to admit she was wrong or even apologize.

Am I allowed to post politics in the political forum, though? Do I need permission or something...?

How ironic.

suitanim
04-13-2012, 09:25 AM
How ironic.

That YOU too won't admit you're wrong?

Yes...we agree on something for once.

This is a POLITICAL FORUM. And you're complaining about politics being posted in it. Sorry, chuckles, but that's just retarded...

If you don't like Obama being bashed on, you're welcome to attempt to defend him. Or you could just stay out of the POLITICAL FORUM if you don't want to see political posts.

It's interesting...I just posted a couple days ago about how you basically just follow me around and try to punch holes in everything I say, and then this...

venom
04-13-2012, 09:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZHIVSI1Bh8

suitanim
04-13-2012, 10:12 AM
Back on topic, Rosen did apologize, but it was kind of left-handed.

Anyway, she is the perfect foil for this, as she is a classic liberal moonbat, with the requisite lineage:
-MSNBC and CNN commentor
-Lesbian activist
-Washington editor for Huffington Post
-Named to National Journal's list of "Top 50 Washington Insiders"
-Lobbyist
-Worked for Dianne Feinstein early in her career
-Democratic consultant and frequent White House visitor

This is EXACTLY the kind of person who has absolutely no use for traditional Judeo-Christian values and institutions and will attack these values to promote her own self-interests. I can't say for sure that this was something Obama was in on, but it's not completely outside the realm of possibility...and boy, did it ever blow up in her (and maybe his) face.

X-Terminator
04-13-2012, 12:09 PM
Man, I HATE the off-season...

The Patriot
04-13-2012, 01:02 PM
Man, I HATE the off-season...

:lol:

GoSlash27
04-13-2012, 04:31 PM
As everyone here is well-aware, I can't stand either of these lying sacks of shit... but *please* tell me you folks aren't falling for this media invented controversy crap again??

Mach1
04-13-2012, 05:06 PM
I wouldn't exactly call it invented. After all the words did come out of here mouth.

zulater
04-14-2012, 06:03 AM
The problem with the comment was that instead of backpeddling, this Rosen woman doubled down and stood her ground and refused to admit she was wrong or even apologize.

Am I allowed to post politics in the political forum, though? Do I need permission or something...?

Where does that come from? I didn't criticize your post or opinion, I just offered my take on it.

I didn't realize this was supposed to be a chorus?

zulater
04-14-2012, 06:08 AM
Back on topic, Rosen did apologize, but it was kind of left-handed.

Anyway, she is the perfect foil for this, as she is a classic liberal moonbat, with the requisite lineage:
-MSNBC and CNN commentor
-Lesbian activist
-Washington editor for Huffington Post
-Named to National Journal's list of "Top 50 Washington Insiders"
-Lobbyist
-Worked for Dianne Feinstein early in her career
-Democratic consultant and frequent White House visitor

This is EXACTLY the kind of person who has absolutely no use for traditional Judeo-Christian values and institutions and will attack these values to promote her own self-interests. I can't say for sure that this was something Obama was in on, but it's not completely outside the realm of possibility...and boy, did it ever blow up in her (and maybe his) face.

No doubt that was a bitch move on her part, and it did blow up in her face, which gives me some pleasure. :heh:

I still wouldn't attach this to Obama. Don't get me wrong, in private I wouldn't be surprised if he's given voice to that sort of thought. But he's too savvy a politician to leave any link back to him.

GoSlash27
04-14-2012, 07:38 AM
I wouldn't exactly call it invented. After all the words did come out of here mouth.
They always do in these fake-roversies. But everybody knows what she actually meant, are trying to pretend that she meant something else, acting all offended when they're really not, and even trying to attach it to people who had nothing to do with it. They pull these bread-and-circuses stuns every election cycle and we're still falling for it. Sad, sad, sad...

Mach1
04-14-2012, 12:44 PM
The hypocrisy never seizes to amaze me.

Godfather
04-14-2012, 01:09 PM
As everyone here is well-aware, I can't stand either of these lying sacks of shit... but *please* tell me you folks aren't falling for this media invented controversy crap again??

It wouldn't be such a big deal if it weren't for the D's beating the "war on women" drum constantly. Kind of the flip side of the R's having to deal with every candidate's war record because they run their mouths about patriotism and a strong national defense.

suitanim
04-16-2012, 08:40 AM
This was actually a two-pronged attack: Rosen's insult was not only directed towards stay-at-home moms, it was also another arrow in the Dems attack on wealth and prosperity quiver. What's interesting about the latter is that it is only through the gradual, 50-year economic decline that women going to work was necessitated. Women NEEDED to work during WWII, and they did NOT need to work in the huge post-War economic expansion. There are two reasons why so many women work now: The decline of the two parent home, and, more importantly, the false prosperity this country has been faking for about 40 years. Household wages are fairly stagnant even though we have shifted from a one-income to two-income family household. The disparity in numbers from like 1950-2010 aren't as huge as they would be because there are just so many households now with just one parent versus two 60 years ago, but when you weigh that factor in, there is a huge difference.

Anyway, this is just yet another thinly veiled attack at people who work hard and are able to provide for their families. That USED to be something that was sought after and lauded in this country: Working hard and achieving wealth and prosperity was a GOOD thing. Now the left decries it as evil and the result of greed and avarice. Now if you become wealthy you must have screwed over innocent working families and welfare people who actually deserve a much bigger chunk of YOUR change because "that's more fair".