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SteelerEmpire
07-06-2010, 05:45 PM
It has begun...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38107328/ns/politics-white_house/
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The U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Arizona's new law targeting illegal immigrants, setting the stage for a clash between the federal government and the state over the nation's toughest immigration crackdown.

The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Phoenix argues that Arizona's law requiring state and local police to question and possibly arrest illegal immigrants during the enforcement of other laws such as traffic violations usurps federal authority.

"In our constitutional system, the federal government has pre-eminent authority to regulate immigration matters," the lawsuit says. "This authority derives from the United States Constitution and numerous acts of Congress. The nation's immigration laws reflect a careful and considered balance of national law enforcement, foreign relations, and humanitarian interests."

The government is seeking an injunction to delay the July 29 implementation of the law until the case is resolved. It ultimately wants the law declared invalid.

The government contends that the Arizona law violates the supremacy clause of the Constitution, a legal theory that says federal laws override state laws. It is already illegal under federal law to be in the country illegally, but Arizona is the first state to make it a state crime and add its own punishment and enforcement tactics.

State Sen. Russell Pearce, the principal sponsor of the bill co-sponsored by dozens of fellow Republican legislators, denounced the lawsuit as "absolute insult to the rule of law" as well as to Arizona and its residents.

"It's outrageous and it's clear they don't want (immigration) laws enforced. What they want is to continue their non-enforcement policy," Pearce said. "They ignore the damage to America, the cost to our citizens, the deaths" tied to border-related violence.

State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, a Phoenix Democrat who opposes the law, said the suit should help settle questions over what states can do when they don't think federal laws are being adequately enforced.

"I hope this galvanizes Congress to gain the moral courage they need to address this (immigration) crisis," Sinema said.

Tuesday's action has been expected for weeks. President Barack Obama has called the state law misguided. Supporters say it is a reasonable reaction to federal inaction on immigration.

Gov. Jan Brewer's spokesman called the decision to sue "a terribly bad decision."

"Arizona obviously has a terrible border security crisis that needs to be addressed, so Gov. Brewer has repeatedly said she would have preferred the resources and attention of the federal government would be focused on that crisis rather than this," spokesman Paul Senseman said.

Three of the five Democrats in Arizona's congressional delegation, who are facing tough re-election battles, had also urged Obama not to try to block the law from going into effect.

Republican Sens. Jon Kyl and John McCain of Arizona also lashed out at the administration's decision, saying "the American people must wonder whether the Obama Administration is really committed to securing the border when it sues a state that is simply trying to protect its people by enforcing immigration law."

The law requires officers, while enforcing other laws, to question a person's immigration status if there's a reasonable suspicion that they are in the country illegally.

Arizona passed the law after years of frustration over problems associated with illegal immigration, including drug trafficking and violent kidnappings. The state is the biggest gateway into the U.S. for illegal immigrants, and is home to an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants.

Obama addressed the Arizona law in a speech on immigration reform last week. He touched on one of the major concerns of federal officials, that other states were poised to follow Arizona by crafting their own immigration enforcement laws.

"As other states and localities go their own ways, we face the prospect that different rules for immigration will apply in different parts of the country," Obama said. "A patchwork of local immigration rules where we all know one clear national standard is needed."

The law makes it a state crime for legal immigrants to not carry their immigration documents and bans day laborers and people who seek their services from blocking traffic on streets.

klick81
07-06-2010, 05:59 PM
Finally! :peep:

NJarhead
07-06-2010, 06:16 PM
This could very well blow up in the face of the Government; meaning, don't be surprised if Arizona loses that the U.S. discovers just how bound they are to uphold existing laws -and/or- Arizona counter sues for damages via negligence of the same.

When does the states vs. O'Dumbass' Healthcare Plan kick off?

steelersfanman92
07-06-2010, 08:43 PM
Its great to know that the government is opposed to upholding the word of the Constitution, which protects its citizens in this case, but where are they when states are legalizing marijuana, which is illegal under federal law? I personally don't understand why they would oppose the law that protects the rights of American citizens.

stlrtruck
07-06-2010, 09:39 PM
Its great to know that the government is opposed to upholding the word of the Constitution, which protects its citizens in this case, but where are they when states are legalizing marijuana, which is illegal under federal law? I personally don't understand why they would oppose the law that protects the rights of American citizens.

Because it costs them illegal votes this November and in 2012!

venom
07-07-2010, 06:10 AM
The Feds goes up against the US People . Great Job guys !!!


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SteelersinCA
07-07-2010, 09:46 AM
This could very well blow up in the face of the Government; meaning, don't be surprised if Arizona loses that the U.S. discovers just how bound they are to uphold existing laws -and/or- Arizona counter sues for damages via negligence of the same.

When does the states vs. O'Dumbass' Healthcare Plan kick off?

States can't sue the Fed for negligence, immunity issues. Can't sue the king.

7SteelGal43
07-07-2010, 10:08 AM
"In our constitutional system, the federal government has pre-eminent authority to regulate immigration matters,"

Then do your effin job !



The government contends that the Arizona law violates the supremacy clause of the Constitution, a legal theory that says federal laws override state laws.

It's the same law, Arizona is just enforcing it. Ok, so they had to make it a STATE crime (good for them), but at least they are doing something about illegals.



"It's outrageous and it's clear they don't want (immigration) laws enforced. What they want is to continue their non-enforcement policy," Pearce said. "They ignore the damage to America, the cost to our citizens, the deaths" tied to border-related violence.

ok, this deserves a great big DUH !!!!!

suitanim
07-08-2010, 04:17 PM
Another terrible decision from the Obama administration. This is akin to living in a condo, where the outside of the dwelling is covered by the Condo Association or builder. The roof caves in due to shoddy workmanship under THEIR watch, your house starts flooding, and the association drags their feet and you start fixing the roof yourself to save your home and belongings.

Then the association comes along and SUES YOU for doing their job for them. It's retarded.

SteelCityMan786
07-08-2010, 04:49 PM
This could very well blow up in the face of the Government; meaning, don't be surprised if Arizona loses that the U.S. discovers just how bound they are to uphold existing laws -and/or- Arizona counter sues for damages via negligence of the same.

When does the states vs. O'Dumbass' Healthcare Plan kick off?

It probably will (and I hope it does blow up in their face). This government could learn a lesson from Arizona. They are in one of the many areas that face this problem more times the not.


Because it costs them illegal votes this November and in 2012!

ACORN will find a way more then likely to cheat them a few votes and ultimately resulting in Voter Fraud Cases. They registered so many dead voters it wasn't funny.


Another terrible decision from the Obama administration. This is akin to living in a condo, where the outside of the dwelling is covered by the Condo Association or builder. The roof caves in due to shoddy workmanship under THEIR watch, your house starts flooding, and the association drags their feet and you start fixing the roof yourself to save your home and belongings.

Then the association comes along and SUES YOU for doing their job for them. It's retarded.

Really makes me want to PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE

suitanim
07-08-2010, 05:48 PM
This would be a little more palatable if the GOP hadn't tried to address this under Bush.

But they did. I can't stress this enough. Bush himself walked this though Congress, personally. But the GOP didn't have a majority, so it was back-burnered. And now here we are...