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polamalubeast
07-05-2010, 10:56 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/414761-top-10-quarterbacks-who-were-made-by-their-receivers#page/11

10. Don Majkowksi
The Majik Man. He was terrible in 1987, terrible in 1988, awesome in 1989, and got hurt for three years and along came Brett Favre.
No need to wonder what could have been, though, Packers fans. The year he was awesome, 1989, was also the year Sterling Sharpe became a full time player.
Anybody could have been awesome in that offense after that.
As we saw.

9. Randall Cunningham
I am not going to dawg Cunningham's whole career here, as he was dynamic and amazing and a good guy all around.
But can we all have some skepticism towards his 1998 season?
That was the year that at the age of 35, after having been retired from football in 1996, and having played only six games as a backup in 1997, Cunningham came in and led the Vikings to a 15-1 record (13-1 in games in which Randall appeared) while leading the NFL in passer rating and setting a career high for touchdowns with 34.
Of course, the Vikings had Randy Moss, Cris Carter, and Robert Smith that year, along with a not—to—shabby Andrew Glover and a serviceable Jake Reed.

8. Rich Gannon
So, Rich Gannon spends the vast majority of his career as a journeyman/spot starter for the Vikings, Redskins, and Chiefs. Then, suddenly, goes to Oakland and becomes a star.
In 2002, he leads the Raiders to the Superbowl and leads the NFL in attempts, completions, yards, and yards per game while posting a 97.3 passer rating.
Do you think there's an ever—so—slight chance his performance had more to do with Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, Charlie Garner, and Jerry Porter than it did Rich Gannon?

7. Jim Kelly
Jim Kelly played in the league for 11 seasons from 1986 to 1996. He was always solid, but his three year prime from 1989 to 1991 easily stands out above the rest.
Those were the years when the combo of Andre Reed, James Lofton, Thurman Thomas, and Pete Metzelaars was at its best.
But the real reason you know Jim Kelly was a product of his team is that his backup, Frank Reich, was always better than Kelly was.
From 1989 to 1993, when subbing for Kelly, Reich's passer rating was 103.7, 91.3, 107.2, 46.5, and 103.5. He also had 17 touchdowns vs. six interceptions.
And remember, it was Frank Reich that led the Bills to an overtime victory in the playoffs against the Houston Oilers after trailing 35—3 in the third quarter in the game that has become known simply as "The Comeback."

6. Ben Roethlisberger
I wish the ladies would learn to stay away from him, and wish sports—talk radio guys would, too.
As a rookie, he went 13—0 with a rating of 98.1. Really impressive.
Of course, his starting wide—outs that year were Hines Ward, Plaxico Burress, and Antwaan Randle-El, so I am guessing that Ryan Leaf could have succeeded in that system, well maybe not Leaf.
Big Bender's only bad season was after Randle-El and Burress left, but before Santonio Holmes was fully developed. Since Holmes became a star, Ben has been one as well.

5. Mark Brunell
Brunell had one of the most underrated wide receiver duos of all time—Keenan McCardell and Jimmy Smith—at his disposal, and he faded as soon as they broke up.

4. Tony Romo
This may simply be "dating Carrie Underwood" jealousy from me, but Tony Romo, not so much.
I will freely admit that Romo's numbers have been amazing since taking over for the Cowboys, but you have to admit that he has had amazing targets during his three—and—a—half years there, including Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Jason Witten, and now Miles Austin.

3. John Elway
For all the "Greatest Quarterback of All Time" support this guy gets, he was merely above—average for the first ten years of his career.
Consider: he never led the AFC in anything other than pass attempts in 1985. His completion percentage hovered around 55 percent. He had exactly one more touchdown pass than interception. His passer rating was in the low 70s.
Then, suddenly, in 1993 he becomes an entirely different quarterback. He completes over 60 percent of his passes, his passer rating jumps into the mid—90's, and he's throwing 10 more touchdowns than interceptions every year.
How did it happen? Did John Elway suddenly become great?
Or was it the emergence of Shannon Sharpe, Terrell Davis, Ed McCaffrey, and Rod Smith that made him suddenly look so great?

2. Daunte Culpepper
Not much to tell here. He was amazing for five years along side Randy Moss and Cris Carter. Then Randy Moss left and he hasn't been a starting quarterback since.
Miami picking Culpepper over Drew Brees in 2005 may be one of the crucial moments in sports history.

1. Kurt Warner

The heart of the Kurt Warner Cinderella narrative is that the St. Louis Rams went 4—12 the year before Kurt Warner became their quarterback.

While this is literally true (they did, in fact, go 4-12 the year before he became their quarterback) this does not mean, as so many would have us believe, that the difference between the 4—12 1998 St. Louis Rams and the 13—3 1999 Super Bowl Champion St. Louis Rams was Kurt Warner.

You know who else the Rams picked up in the offseason before their Super Bowl season?

Marshall Faulk, the NFL leader in yards from scrimmage the year before.

And Torry Holt, a lethal receiver who had over 700 yards as a rookie in 1999 and led the NFL in receiving yards in 2000.

And Dre Bly, a rookie cornerback who played in all sixteen games and finished with three interceptions and touchdown.

And Adam Timmerman, who played in two Superbowls with the Packers before joining the Rams in 1999.

London Fletcher was in his second year, first as a starter.

As was Az-Zahir Hakim.

And Grant Wistrom.

Tony Horne was in his second full season, and led the NFL in yards per kickoff return and touchdowns off of kickoffs.

And how about the players they got rid after 1998, like Tony Banks; lots of guys could have stepped in and performed better than Banks.

The Rams leading rusher in 1998 was June Henley. Who? A fifth round draft pick out of Kansas who only played in 1998.

Isaac Bruce, the great receiver, was on the 1998 Rams, but he missed all but five games. But despite only playing five games, he finished third on the team in receiving yards with 457, after Ricky Proehl and Amp Lee, a running back. Lee led the team in receptions.

Eddie Kennison started 13 games and didn't break 300 yards. J.T Thomas played in 16 games and had 20 receptions.

Kurt Warner was not the only difference between those two teams, and he was not even the third or fourth most significant difference between those two teams.

Then Warner loses his job to Marc Bulger, who puts up pretty amazing numbers with the same personnel, and wanders the league before getting the starting job and playing great in Arizona, where he had the best receiver duo in the league in Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.

Gimme a break.

BigNastyDefense
07-05-2010, 11:17 AM
Randle El wasn't that great of a receiver. He was a good #2 option, but never better than that.

Funny thing about Plax is, he wasn't that big of a free agency hit. And the Steelers won the Super Bowl without him.

Hines Ward is one of the most solid WR's in the NFL. But he's not Terrell Owens or Randy Moss.

Santonio Holmes is one helluva receiver. But Ben Roethlisberger has his best season in regards to touchdowns (32) in one season with Holmes and he never got back to that again with Holmes. Also, Holmes has had only one 1,000 yard season for such a great "QB making" receiver.

Ben Roethlisberger is a great QB. He's the best QB at buying time in the pocket by ducking and getting away from pass rushers buying more time for his receivers to get open. He's made some throws that not even Peyton Manning or Tom Brady could made.

hotrodder07
07-05-2010, 11:32 AM
Another stellar article from BleacherReport...:rolleyes2:

The entire list is a joke, really. I don't even want to get into how he's wrong about Ben, because he's so wrong on the entire list. QBs who win multiple superbowls are not there just because of their WRs. Sure, WRs can help make a QB look better, but they still have to be a great arm to get it to those WRs!

Alright...I'm done.

solardave
07-05-2010, 11:43 AM
Did it ever occur to this moron that sometimes the QB makes the throws that make the receivers look good.:doh:

silver & black
07-05-2010, 12:11 PM
Bleacher Report... nothing to see here.

steeldawg
07-05-2010, 04:02 PM
Terrible article

SteelGhost
07-05-2010, 04:04 PM
Bleacher Report... nothing to see here.

:amen:

SteelerEmpire
07-05-2010, 06:25 PM
I don't get the logic of it... aren't all QB's made by their receivers ?

fansince'76
07-05-2010, 06:29 PM
Ironic, considering that we have NEVER had a reputation for fielding stellar WRs, at least since the days of Swann and Stallworth, anyway. Elway being on that list is a joke too - he practically carried 3 mediocre Broncos teams to SBs in the late '80s by himself. Another Bleacher Report "article" more than likely written by some high school-aged fantasy football nerd that doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

Godfather
07-05-2010, 06:35 PM
Did it ever occur to this moron that sometimes the QB makes the throws that make the receivers look good.:doh:

Especially in the cases where he lists several good WRs.

If a QB only looked good with one particular target, this idiot has a case.

But if a QB succeeded throwing to several different good receivers, maybe, just maybe, the one common factor (the QB) had something to do with it.

Kittyfish
07-05-2010, 06:38 PM
Ben didn't get no respect before all this business went down; it's ridiculous to think he's going to get any now. Might as well get used to it. Perhaps he'll win us a couple more Super Bowl rings out of spite, just to show them what's what. I can live with that.

polamalubeast
07-05-2010, 06:47 PM
Ben Roethlisberger

NFL records
Most regular season wins in a season, rookie QB — 13 (2004) [109]
Longest regular season win streak to start a career for a NFL QB — 15 games (won all 13 starts in the 2004 season, won first 2 games of the 2005 season)[110]
Most wins as a starting quarterback in first five NFL seasons (reg. season only) - 51 (from 2004–2008)[29]
Highest passer rating, rookie season — 98.1 (2004)[111]
Highest completion percentage, rookie season — 66.4% (2004)[111]
Most games with a completion percentage of 80.0% or higher, regular season (min. 10 attempts) — 4 (2007)[112]
(Tie) Most touchdown passes, Monday Night Football game — 5 (11/5/2007 vs. Baltimore Ravens) [110]
First QB to start two Conference Championship games in first two seasons in the NFL (2004 & 2005)[110]
Youngest starting QB ever to win the Super Bowl (2005; second-youngest QB to play in the Super Bowl, behind Dan Marino)[113]
Second quarterback in NFL history, along with Peyton Manning, to register three perfect passing games during the regular season, and the only quarterback to ever register two perfect passing games in one regular season.[110]
Tied for most seasons with one or more postseason starts in the first five years in the league since 1960, with four starts (tied with Bernie Kosar, Donovan McNabb, and Eli Manning).[115]

polamalubeast
07-05-2010, 06:49 PM
Pittsburgh Steelers franchise records
In six seasons, Roethlisberger has many individual accomplishments that are record performances in Steelers history.[116][117]

Career records
68-28 (.708) record as starting QB (includes a 8-2 playoff record)
.708 winning percentage is the highest among all Steelers QBs with at least 20 starts
Highest Passer Rating (Min. 100 attempts) — 91.7
Highest Completion % (Min. 100 attempts) — 63.3%
Highest Yards Per Attempt (Min. 100 attempts) — 8.01
Most 300+ Yard Passing Games — 13
Most 400+ Yard Passing Games — 3
Most 500+ Yard Passing Games — 1
Most 3000-Yard Passing Seasons — 4
Most Consecutive 3000-Yard Passing Seasons — 4 (2006–2009)
Most 4000-Yard Passing Seasons — 1
Most Consecutive Games With a TD Pass — 15 (from December 3, 2006 through November 18, 2007)
Most Games with a Passer Rating over 100.0 (regular season) — 37[118]
Most Games With a Perfect Passer Rating — 3
Biggest contract in Steelers history (eight years, $102 million)[119]
Season records
Highest Completion % — 66.6% (2009)
Most Touchdown Passes — 32 (2007)
Highest TD% — 7.92% (2007)
Highest Yards Per Attempt — 8.90 (2005)
Highest Passer Rating — 104.1 (2007)
Most Passing Yards — 4,328 (2009)
Most 300+ Yard Passing Games — 5 (2009)[120]
Most Pass Completions — 337 (2009)
Single-game records
Most Passing Yards — 503 (Completed 29 of 46 passes for 503 yards and 3 touchdowns on December 20, 2009 against the Green Bay Packers)
Most Pass Completions — 38 (Completed 38 of 54 passes for 433 yards on November 5, 2006 against the Denver Broncos)
(Tie) Most Consecutive Passes Completed, Single Game — 15 (Completed 15 straight on November 26, 2007 against the Miami Dolphins on Monday Night Football. Bubby Brister also completed 15 straight on October 1, 1989 against the Detroit Lions.)
Highest Completion %, Game (min. 20 attempts) — 85.7% (Completed 18 out of 21 attempts on November 26, 2007 against the Miami Dolphins on Monday Night Football)
(Tie) Most Touchdown Passes, Game — 5 (Threw five TD passes in the first half against the Baltimore Ravens on a Monday-night game November 5, 2007. Tied with Terry Bradshaw and Mark Malone) [121]
Rookie records (achieved during 2004 season)
Most Pass Attempts — 295
Most Pass Completions — 196
Highest Completion % — 66.4%
Most Passing Yards — 2621
Most Touchdown Passes — 17
Highest Yards Per Attempt — 8.88
Highest Passer Rating — 98.1
Wins as starting QB — 13
Postseason records
Highest Completion % (Min. 50 attempts) — 61.9%
Highest Passer Rating — 87.2

Psycho Ward 86
07-05-2010, 07:37 PM
Lol, trying to take away from Kurt, Elway, and Ben? That is a mega fail.