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SteelCityMom
07-01-2010, 10:38 AM
By DARLENE SUPERVILLE, Associated Press Writer – Thu Jul 1, 5:06 am ET
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama hopes to rally new momentum behind the push for an immigration overhaul by explaining why he thinks a comprehensive approach is the only way to fix what he and others say is a system badly in need of repair.
Obama was laying out his rationale in a speech Thursday, his first as president on the issue.
Obama wasn't expected to announce any new proposals or policy changes. But feeling pressure from a range of supporters, he was aiming to jump-start the effort he had promised to make a priority in his first year and which advocates had hoped would be completed by now.
The speech follows up on back-to-back meetings Obama had with advocates and lawmakers at the White House this week.
Obama has said a comprehensive solution means "accountability for everybody" — from the U.S. government meeting its obligation to secure the border, to businesses facing the consequences of knowingly employing illegal immigrants, to those who enter the country illegally owning up to their actions before they can begin the process of becoming citizens.
Recent developments on immigration influenced his decision to give a speech, White House officials say, most notably Arizona's enactment of a tough anti-immigrant law and protests across the country against it.
"He thought this was a good time to talk plainly with the American people about his views on immigration," spokesman Bill Burton said.
Still, prospects appear bleak for getting a bill to Obama's desk before lawmakers leave town in the fall to campaign for re-election in November, and the president could be partly responsible for that. In April, he gave lawmakers some wiggle room when he said Congress may not have the appetite to deal with immigration this year following a tough legislative year in 2009.
The political reality is that to get a bill Obama needs Republican support, mostly in the Senate, where Democrats fall short of the 60 votes needed to overcome GOP stalling tactics. Obama has mentioned that lack of cross-party support in his recent comments on immigration.
"I've got to have some support from Republicans," he said at a May news conference with visiting Mexican President Felipe Calderon.
Obama has endorsed a proposal by Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., that would require illegal immigrants, among other things, to admit they broke the law, pay fines and back taxes and perform community service to eventually obtain legal status. But Graham since has balked at acting on immigration this year, and no other Senate Republican has come forward.
Some Republicans want to act first on measures to tighten security along the U.S.-Mexico border, but Obama disagrees with that approach. His administration has acted to improve border security, including increasing personnel and equipment along the border.
Obama recently ordered 1,200 National Guard troops to the border to boost security and asked Congress for an additional $600 million to support personnel and improve technology there. More than 500 of those Guard troops are to be sent to Arizona.
The Arizona law requires police enforcing another statute to clarify a person's immigration status if there's reason to believe the individual is in the U.S. illegally. Several states and communities are considering similar legislation, which Obama says is an understandable byproduct of the public's frustration over the federal government's inability to tighten the immigration system.
But Obama also has criticized the law as "misguided" and said it is potentially discriminatory. He has asked the Justice Department to review its legality and immigrant advocates are hoping the government will sue Arizona to block the law from taking effect later this month.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_immigration

This is an approach I can get behind. I wish more Republicans would give it the time of day in the Senate though.

Mach1
07-01-2010, 10:46 AM
WOOOHOOOO Their now inspecting all SOUTH bound trains. Yippie.

Why not north bound ones, you know the ones that ILLEGALS sneak over on.

venom
07-01-2010, 10:55 AM
Anything to help out the undocumented Democratic Voters

SCSTILLER
07-01-2010, 06:20 PM
Lindsay Graham is an idiot. He is another democrat with an "R" next to his name. He reminds me of Arlen Specter, just playing the game to get elected. Good ole Graham supports the Crap and Tax energy Bill that our illustrious President wants to push through, that should tell you all you need to know about that Republican. Oh, and from what I have read in the papers down here, he is going to confirm our new justice Soto Myanamar or whatever her name is. Great, thanks Lindsay!

Godfather
07-01-2010, 06:56 PM
Good.

Remember what happened to the last President to push for this?

The WH
07-02-2010, 07:42 AM
http://wxdx.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=7312930

Obama to immigrants ''Learn English''

BigNastyDefense
07-02-2010, 10:59 AM
Here is how we should deal with the illegal immigrants:

Send their asses back to where the came from. But first, fingerprint them and put them in a database so they can NEVER obtain legal status in this country.

Giving them amnesty isn't the answer.

HometownGal
07-02-2010, 02:06 PM
http://www.brokencountry.com/webimages/Vato_Obama2.jpg

SteelCityMom
07-02-2010, 03:26 PM
Here is how we should deal with the illegal immigrants:

Send their asses back to where the came from. But first, fingerprint them and put them in a database so they can NEVER obtain legal status in this country.

Giving them amnesty isn't the answer.

Yeah...making millions of illegals pay taxes and fines and do community service sure would suck.

Mach1
07-02-2010, 03:43 PM
I heard something on the radio that the obaaama administration wants to pass it where ILLEGALS can get amnesty and bring up to nine(9) relatives with them. :doh:

7SteelGal43
07-02-2010, 03:58 PM
Obama's immigration reform = amnesty

http://www.renewamerica.com/news/images/08/081007illegals.jpg

SteelCityMom
07-02-2010, 04:42 PM
Obama's immigration reform = amnesty

http://www.renewamerica.com/news/images/08/081007illegals.jpg

He's not proposing or supporting blanket amnesty though. He's supporting the same kind of conditional amnesty that Bush and McKain supported. I don't think it's that unfair. It's a lot more realistic than rounding up 12 million people and sending them back across the border. I know that's what some people want...but it's never going to happen.

The problem ultimately lies within Congress...on both sides. Democrats don't want to talk about this issue because it divides their coalition between Latinos on the one hand and organized labor on the other. Republicans don't want to talk about the issue because it divides their coalition between nativists on the one hand (law-and-order types) and big business on the other. So they have this gentlemen's agreement where they just don't want to talk about the issue because it's bad for both parties.

suitanim
07-08-2010, 04:12 PM
Good.

Remember what happened to the last President to push for this?

Ummmmmm....he couldn't run again. Bush personally walked his immigration reform over to Capital Hill. The Democrats killed it.

MasterOfPuppets
07-09-2010, 01:18 AM
Ummmmmm....he couldn't run again. Bush personally walked his immigration reform over to Capital Hill. The Democrats killed it.

yep...it was all the democrats doins...


Former President Bush's Proposed Immigration Legislation
On June 29th the United States Senate squashed the proposed comprehensive immigration legislation, ending chances for President George W. Bush to pass his immigration reform plan--a centerpiece of the president's domestic agenda. Immigration reform supporters garnered just 46 of the 60 votes needed to conclude debate and proceed to final passage. Sixty senators, including 37 of Bush's fellow Republicans, voted against it. Most senators said they had no plans to try to overhaul immigration law before the 2008 presidential election, so it is unlikely that any major immigration bill will become law until 2009. The biggest obstacle was to convince conservatives that the path to citizenship for illegal aliens is not Amnesty. The bill's bitter end has a deeper meaning, as it demonstrated that conservative Americans’ vision for US immigration reform should not include any type of amnesty or legalization for undocumented workers.

http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/immigration-reform.html