Lamarr Woodley is incredible

[polamalubeast]

It was amazing for 3 games.He is a player that still has slow start to the season, but after it is a dominant player!

Hope that Woodley will hit multiple times Tom Brady next Sunday!

[The Duke]

Nate Solder/Sebastian Vollmer will be a much more difficult test

but man's on a role so I'm expecting a good game here

[zulater]

It will be interesting to see how Steeldude goes about qualifying Woodley's perfomance today.

[stillers4me]

Hope that Woodley will hit multiple times Tom Brady next Sunday!

Brady* hates Heinz Field. I hope he's pulling it out of his teeth next week. :bounce:

[polamalubeast]

It will be interesting to see how Steeldude goes about qualifying Woodley's perfomance today.

overpaid

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

It will be interesting to see how Steeldude goes about qualifying Woodley's perfomance today.

Very Gildon-like. Sacks vs TE's, RB's and when unblocked......with very little hustle or intensity.

[fansince'76]

It will be interesting to see how Steeldude goes about qualifying Woodley's perfomance today.

"The Cardinals suck. Do it against a good team, and well, I'll find another qualifier as to why he's overrated and overpaid."

[7willBheaven]

Solid performance yet again...keep it going big man.

[stillers4me]

Personally, I never had doubts about him.

[zulater]

Too bad he got screwed out of a 3rd sack and a safety by Kolb grounding the ball.

[Merchant]

Can't wait till Harrison's back on the other side. Timmons just isn't cutting it.

[X-Terminator]

Another solid performance for Woodley this week. Next week will be a much more difficult test.

[Galax Steeler]

It will be interesting to see how Steeldude goes about qualifying Woodley's perfomance today.

He just bull rushes nothing else.

[86WARD]

Can't wait till Harrison's back on the other side. Timmons just isn't cutting it.

QFT.

Timmons has been downright non-existent out there...get him back in the middle...

[zulater]

"The Cardinals suck. Do it against a good team, and well, I'll find another qualifier as to why he's overrated and overpaid."

Leader in the clubhouse. :lol:

[Animal Mother]

I personally love Woodley. I love when he gets like 2 fingers on a QB's jersey and still takes him down. I'm glad he's playing better and getting more sacks, but how about that hit on the RB (forget who it was) flying across the line like that.

[Steeldude]

It will be interesting to see how Steeldude goes about qualifying Woodley's perfomance today.

it was amazing. he is the only LB i know that can sack a QB when he isn't blocked. just amazing. can you think of any other LB that can do that? that's not a rhetorical question :grin:

once again sacks is all you people look at. if he didn't have any sacks you people would be scrambling for excuses like the ever popular "he was in coverage all day"...lol.

this is kordell era all over again. where are the death threats? are they coming soon? i miss those days. so many upset and angry fans back in those days because people pointed out kordell's weaknesses etc... by kordell era i am referring to how fans react on message boards when people posts opinions they do not agree with. heaven forbid someone has an opinion that doesn't agree with the masses :grin:

woodley is finally showing some hustle and consistency. i know you people only care about sacks, but there are other areas that are just as important.

how was his play last year minus the sacks?

[zulater]

it was amazing. he is the only LB i know that can sack a QB when he isn't blocked. just amazing. can you think of any other LB that can do that? that's not a rhetorical question :grin:

once again sacks is all you people look at. if he didn't have any sacks you people would be scrambling for excuses like the ever popular "he was in coverage all day"...lol.

this is kordell era all over again. where are the death threats? are they coming soon? i miss those days. so many upset and angry fans back in those days because people pointed out kordell's weaknesses etc... by kordell era i am referring to how fans react on message boards when people posts opinions they do not agree with. heaven forbid someone has an opinion that doesn't agree with the masses :grin:

woodley is finally showing some hustle and consistency. i know you people only care about sacks, but there are other areas that are just as important.

how was his play last year minus the sacks?

Are you capable of admitting that he's been playing really good these past 3 games? Or do you want to dig the hole a little deeper? :coffee:

[Steeldude]

Are you capable of admitting that he's been playing really good these past 3 games? Or do you want to dig the hole a little deeper? :coffee:

i believe i have already implied that. it just kills you that someone doesn't agree with your opinion on woodley's career so far.

what hole? you think he is great based off sacks. i think he needs to show hustle and consistency which have been absent in most of his career.

i'm thinking you saw gildon as a really good LB.

[venom]

He picking up - hope he plays like this when Harrison comes back

[Count Steeler]

He picking up - hope he plays like this when Harrison comes back

I think that is the key. He has picked up his game with Harrison absent. Will he continue this level of play when Harrison gets back?

[zulater]

i believe i have already implied that. it just kills you that someone doesn't agree with your opinion on woodley's career so far.

what hole? you think he is great based off sacks. i think he needs to show hustle and consistency which have been absent in most of his career.

i'm thinking you saw gildon as a really good LB.


If by imply you mean offer qualifier's on top of quailifier's to explain away any good play's Lamarr has produced I suppose you have.


And no I don't want everyone to agree with me on this or any other topic. It gets dull as dirt if everyone marches in lockstep.

As to hole, I'm referring to the deep crevice your credibility on this player currently resides in. You come off as someone who lacks objectivity and will go to any lengths to discredit Woodley.

As to hustle and consistency, name me the player who plays 16 great games every season and follows it up with a brilliant post season? Harrison? I can find you many games he's disappeared, particularly late in the past couple seasons. Troy, yeah he has his share of clunkers too, truth be told yesterday might have been one of them. But you see that's football. Injuries factor in, many that aren't even listed on the teams injury report, things that nag and sap at your speed and strength and limit your ability to be the player you want to be. Also there's two teams out there, sometimes it might be a matter of them game planning you out of it, or maybe they've got a player who simply is your match and is able to keep you at bay for that game. Etc. etc. and so on.

The point is yes I would like it if Woodley played every game as he has the past 3, but that's just not the way the league works. That's why at the end of the year there wont be more than one or two players in the league with 15+ sacks.


As for Gildon, he was a better player than those that hung on every word of the "Gildong report" wanted to believe. And no he wasn't nearly as good an overall player as Woodley has become.

[zulater]

The Cardinals tried various ways to deal with linebacker LaMarr Woodley. None of them worked. The tight ends tried chipping him before a lineman could deny access to the backfield. That was effective until Woodley used his speed to get into the face of quarterback Kevin Kolb late in the third quarter. Kolb panicked and was called for intentional grounding while in the end zone - a safety that extended the Steelers' lead to 26-14.

Read more: Short passes get Steelers' offense going - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_763487.html#ixzz1bhVCjAD1

[Texasteel]

how was his play last year minus the sacks?

2010
Games-16, TT-35, Ast-15, Sacks-10, Ints-2, TDs-1.

NFL Power Ranting had he ranted #4

[suitanim]

I don't know why you guys bother. This kid obviously didn't and doesn't know very much about the nuances of the game of football, and it's pretty clear he's not interested in learning.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I don't know why you guys bother. This kid obviously didn't and doesn't know very much about the nuances of the game of football, and it's pretty clear he's not interested in learning.

I think this statement is a bit harsh. I for one dont think Woodley is the greatest OLB in the game, and think he is only a 10 sack a year guy because of his lack of elite speed, but I think he probably plays the run as good as any OLB in the game and probably better than guys like Porter, Gildon, Green, Lloyd have in the past.

Anybody could complain, but I am curious to know what the Dude would have offered as a solution for who would play OLB this season if Woodley was not signed to a contract.

[suitanim]

I think this statement is a bit harsh. I for one dont think Woodley is the greatest OLB in the game, and think he is only a 10 sack a year guy because of his lack of elite speed, but I think he probably plays the run as good as any OLB in the game and probably better than guys like Porter, Gildon, Green, Lloyd have in the past.

Anybody could complain, but I am curious to know what the Dude would have offered as a solution for who would play OLB this season if Woodley was not signed to a contract.He's a 3 trick pony: 1) Woodley, 2) Arians and 3) (inexplicably, because he hasn't taken a meaningful snap as a Steeler in almost a decade) Kordell Stewart.
There's almost never any praise, and he basically just complains. If you argue with him, he does the interwebs equivalent of shouting you down.

Speaking of Kordoza, I've never seen anyone so unhealthily obsessed with a single player. I've wondered over the years if maybe Steelerdude is an ex jilted lover of Stewart's...

As for Woodley, he's a better than average LBer, an excellent pass rusher, but what really sets him apart (and has since I started watching him play against the Buckeyes years ago) is his innate ability to make big plays when they matter most. You can't put a price tag on something that rare...

[vasteeler]

i wonder how much his success lately is due to aaron smith not playing

[Texasteel]

Come on guys. Lets keep to the topic please.

[X-Terminator]

He's a 3 trick pony: 1) Woodley, 2) Arians and 3) (inexplicably, because he hasn't taken a meaningful snap as a Steeler in almost a decade) Kordell Stewart.
There's almost never any praise, and he basically just complains. If you argue with him, he does the interwebs equivalent of shouting you down.

Speaking of Kordoza, I've never seen anyone so unhealthily obsessed with a single player. I've wondered over the years if maybe Steelerdude is an ex jilted lover of Stewart's...

As for Woodley, he's a better than average LBer, an excellent pass rusher, but what really sets him apart (and has since I started watching him play against the Buckeyes years ago) is his innate ability to make big plays when they matter most. You can't put a price tag on something that rare...

Just look at Super Bowl XLIII. His strip-sack of Warner could very well have saved a GW TD, because Fitz was breaking open right as it happened.

As for Steeldude, he makes it clear that he is not a "rah-rah" fan and no one is above criticism. That's just him. I've gone at it with him in the past because of it, but over time, I've learned to respect it, even if I strongly disagree.

[suitanim]

Good point about Wood in the SB. Harrison saves one TD and creates a 14 point swing, and Wood denies them another. Without those two plays, we're probably sitting at 5 rings and a 2 Super Bowl game losing streak. How does one even begin to put a price on plays that literally win games? It'd be different if when he played "poorly" he was giving up TD's, but he's not. When he whiffed in the Houston game, he was not alone: Troy missed that tackle too, so he was in good company on that play. Arian Foster is a beast, and sometimes great players are just going to make great plays on the OFFENSIVE side of the ball, too...

[Steeldude]

As to hole, I'm referring to the deep crevice your credibility on this player currently resides in. You come off as someone who lacks objectivity and will go to any lengths to discredit Woodley.



then i could say you come off as a person who will go to any length to credit woodley. anyone can take a handful of posts and formulate what they "think" someone is saying. you seem to have totally disregarded woodley's entire career, but instead focused on his last 3 games as if it makes up for the many others. if woodley is a hustling monster then why are there so many people who see what i see? it's the same as 1997 with kordell, but with the exception i was one of the very few who knew kordell would never be a good QB in the NFL(i am not saying woodley is to LBs as kordell is to QBs). for a more recent comparison you can look at foote. the guy is totally overrated. he is often out of position. he also waits for the ball carrier to come to him for more than attacking. yet the steelers re-sign him for 3 mil. so many fans say he is solid. making tackles 6 yards down field is not solid. getting driven back is not solid. i could go on and on. mcfadden is another one. he sucked when he was here before. he offered nothing of real value except being a body who would make a tackle after letting the WR catch the ball. i think hampton should be let go. he is a waste of cap space. IMO, he is nothing more than a fat NT. if he was still 325 i would say keep him. i wanted him let go when his contract was going to expire. hoke would have held it down while they drafted a suitable NT. i remember catching a lot of heat for saying harrison would be better than porter. it all comes down to fans getting too personally attached to players.

as for hustle and consistency, i am not referring to tackles, sacks, INTs, PD etc... although those are important. i am referring to woodley's loafing around, giving up on plays, half-assing it that he has shown over the years. i can't recall specific games/plays, one i do remember was when harrison came from his own side of the field and flew by a loafing woodley to make the tackle. very rarely do i see woodley pursuing anyone to the other side of the field. that is what i am referring to. it's the same weak crap that gildon did. when i play any sport i hustle on every play no matter where it is on the field/court. my feeling is the more you are paid the better you play and the more you make sure you hustle. that's not to say if you are paid less you don't have to hustle as much. IMO, i think woodley has heard the critics and is displaying more hustle/drive.

to make it clear, for the people with hurt feelings(not saying you are one of them), i never said i was against re-signing woodley. i have never said he was void of making good to great plays. however, i was opposed to the amount of the contract. i felt it could have been spent on the O-line. the steelers have a good track record for finding decent replacements for the LOLB position as opposed to finding an O-lineman worth a damn.

hopefully woodley keeps hustling and improving. i don't expect him to be perfect, but i do expect hustle.

[GBMelBlount]

When Woodley is "on fire" he is amazing....at other times it does seem like he lacks hustle and doesn't stand out.

Was he worth the huge contract? We'll see.

If I remember correctly just six weeks ago several people suggesting we let woodley go and only keep Timmons.....

How quickly things change.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

When Woodley is "on fire" he is amazing....at other times it does seem like he lacks hustle and doesn't stand out.

Was he worth the huge contract? We'll see.

If I remember correctly just six weeks ago several people suggesting we let woodley go and only keep Timmons.....

How quickly things change.

I honestly cant remember a time when Woodley "lacks hustle". His detractors blame him for the Arian Foster cutback and the following week he pursues backside with more reservation to make sure he is in the cutback lane and those say there is no effort.

The guy plays with leverage and if you watch him pass rush on plays that he is not successful, he is at least getting under the blocker and driving him to the QB, while the speed guys in the NFL try to run around OT's. Is he better than Suggs or Ware as a pass rusher, no I dont think so. Does he play the run better than those guys?? You bet.

[GBMelBlount]

I honestly cant remember a time when Woodley "lacks hustle".

You may be right El Gonzo....but perhaps it may seem that way to some because his "splash plays" seem to cum in spurts.

[HollywoodSteel]

I'm not going to bother to address any specific criticisms of Woodley right now, but I will say his resigning has been a Godsend given our linebacker situation right now.

[fansince'76]

however, i was opposed to the amount of the contract.

Look at the deals Wimbley and Hali got. He got the going market rate. Actually, a little less.

[zulater]

You may be right El Gonzo....but perhaps it may seem that way to some because his "splash plays" seem to cum in spurts.

Is Woodley making porno's or did you mean "come in spurts." :chuckle:

Sorry, didn't mean to be Mr Grammar man, but that was too easy a set up not to spike. :wink02:

[tube517]

Is Woodley making porno's or did you mean "come in spurts." :chuckle:

Sorry, didn't mean to be Mr Grammar man, but that was too easy a set up not to spike. :wink02:

Zu, I noticed that, too. :rofl2: :behindsofa:

[GBMelBlount]

Is Woodley making porno's or did you mean "come in spurts." :chuckle:

As long as Woodley brings the wood every Sunday he can do whatever he wants in his spare time. :grin:

[steeldevil]

As long as Woodley brings the wood every Sunday he can do whatever he wants in his spare time. :grin:

Brings the WOOD... :sofunny:

[tube517]

As long as Woodley brings the wood every Sunday he can do whatever he wants in his spare time. :grin:

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/22792000/ngbbs4dcf2da895a5d.jpg :chuckle: uh huh huh huh

[polamalubeast]

Another good game of Woodley.The pass rush was bad after his injury.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Another good game of Woodley.The pass rush was bad after his injury.

but our DB's continued to play with some serious fury-complex after that

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Another good game of Woodley.The pass rush was bad after his injury.

Yeah, but he is paid way too much to be injured and sitting on the sidelines. Probably pulled the hammy because he isnt used to having to hustle.

[X-Terminator]

Woodley has definitely raised his game over the past month. Another solid performance out of him today. It's a shame he got hurt and had to leave the game since he was playing so well.

[IUSteel]

Probably not the right place to put this, but did anyone else notice Carter get the Harrison treatment a few times? He'd beat his man and get held up by a hand on his jersey.

On topic, biggest thing to me is we didn't have anyone to step in and play OLB. We're transitioning linebackers over the next few years, and regardless if you think he can't hustle, it's not the right time. Personally, I don't see any reason not to keep him, and the contract doesn't really worry me that much. Who exactly should we have spent the money on? Hampton, Smith, Harrison are on the way out. Polamalu probably in the next four years. Our cap space now doesn't reflect our cap space in the future at all.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Probably not the right place to put this, but did anyone else notice Carter get the Harrison treatment a few times? He'd beat his man and get held up by a hand on his jersey.

On topic, biggest thing to me is we didn't have anyone to step in and play OLB. We're transitioning linebackers over the next few years, and regardless if you think he can't hustle, it's not the right time. Personally, I don't see any reason not to keep him, and the contract doesn't really worry me that much. Who exactly should we have spent the money on? Hampton, Smith, Harrison are on the way out. Polamalu probably in the next four years. Our cap space now doesn't reflect our cap space in the future at all.

Because we misfired on Bruce Davis, had to let Thad Gibson walk, now Worilds is 0ut and Carter is just a rookie. Very much true we are not stacked at OLB, but I like what I see from Carter and he just needs to get stronger.

[suitanim]

Yeah, but he is paid way too much to be injured and sitting on the sidelines. Probably pulled the hammy because he isnt used to having to hustle.

Ummmmmmmmmmm............yeah. (That's all I'm allowed to say about this)

[Count Steeler]

This has been a great stretch by Woodley. Hope the injury does not keep him out. His contract is about the right pay scale for his numbers and effort. He has definitely become a leader on defense and I loved seeing him coming out and coaching Carter between plays. Carter almost got a sack himself.

[zulater]

then i could say you come off as a person who will go to any length to credit woodley. anyone can take a handful of posts and formulate what they "think" someone is saying. you seem to have totally disregarded woodley's entire career, but instead focused on his last 3 games as if it makes up for the many others. if woodley is a hustling monster then why are there so many people who see what i see? it's the same as 1997 with kordell, but with the exception i was one of the very few who knew kordell would never be a good QB in the NFL(i am not saying woodley is to LBs as kordell is to QBs). for a more recent comparison you can look at foote. the guy is totally overrated. he is often out of position. he also waits for the ball carrier to come to him for more than attacking. yet the steelers re-sign him for 3 mil. so many fans say he is solid. making tackles 6 yards down field is not solid. getting driven back is not solid. i could go on and on. mcfadden is another one. he sucked when he was here before. he offered nothing of real value except being a body who would make a tackle after letting the WR catch the ball. i think hampton should be let go. he is a waste of cap space. IMO, he is nothing more than a fat NT. if he was still 325 i would say keep him. i wanted him let go when his contract was going to expire. hoke would have held it down while they drafted a suitable NT. i remember catching a lot of heat for saying harrison would be better than porter. it all comes down to fans getting too personally attached to players.

as for hustle and consistency, i am not referring to tackles, sacks, INTs, PD etc... although those are important. i am referring to woodley's loafing around, giving up on plays, half-assing it that he has shown over the years. i can't recall specific games/plays, one i do remember was when harrison came from his own side of the field and flew by a loafing woodley to make the tackle. very rarely do i see woodley pursuing anyone to the other side of the field. that is what i am referring to. it's the same weak crap that gildon did. when i play any sport i hustle on every play no matter where it is on the field/court. my feeling is the more you are paid the better you play and the more you make sure you hustle. that's not to say if you are paid less you don't have to hustle as much. IMO, i think woodley has heard the critics and is displaying more hustle/drive.

to make it clear, for the people with hurt feelings(not saying you are one of them), i never said i was against re-signing woodley. i have never said he was void of making good to great plays. however, i was opposed to the amount of the contract. i felt it could have been spent on the O-line. the steelers have a good track record for finding decent replacements for the LOLB position as opposed to finding an O-lineman worth a damn.

hopefully woodley keeps hustling and improving. i don't expect him to be perfect, but i do expect hustle.

Well, you think we might have missed Woodely tonight.

[SteelerEmpire]

Thanks for getting hurt on us Lamarr... lol

[katmandu]

Tonight's outcome would certainly have been different if LaMarr was putting pressure on Bert !!

[polamalubeast]

It is worth 90 million.

[JayC]

he was the key to us losing. i think he would have stopped a couple of those 3rd down conversions if he was playing. he's been a beast the past 4 or so weeks so it sucks he was out

[Edman]

Yes, Lamarr was worth the paycheck. His presence was missed big time tonight.

Jason Worilds is useless.

[fansince'76]

On a positive note, looks like Harrison is all the way back...

[zulater]

Yes, Lamarr was worth the paycheck. His presence was missed big time tonight.

Jason Worilds is useless.

Was Worldis' name called last night?

[zulater]

Figure Woodley misses at least one more game, give him the benefit of the bye to fully heal.

[Steeldude]

Well, you think we might have missed Woodely tonight.

i am not a seer. woodley does disappear for games at a time. he wasn't there in week 1 against the ravens.

[Steeldude]

Yes, Lamarr was worth the paycheck. His presence was missed big time tonight.

Jason Worilds is useless.

one game and he is voted useless? did he look any worse than woodley in the first meeting with the ravens?

[PalmerSteel]

worilds isnt useless, just inexperienced and raw compared to woodley and his absence was definately felt in this one.

[zulater]

i am not a seer. woodley does disappear for games at a time. he wasn't there in week 1 against the ravens.

Yeah that's evident by the fact that you can't see your caps key.

So tell me was Woodley there for the playoff game last year? Coming off a spectacular month of play you don't think his presence was missed?

[suitanim]

Yeah that's evident by the fact that you can't see your caps key.

So tell me was Woodley there for the playoff game last year? Coming off a spectacular month of play you don't think his presence was missed?

I don't know you guys keep bothering...

[Steeldude]

Yeah that's evident by the fact that you can't see your caps key.

complaining about upper/lower case letters etc...? way to stay on topic. what's next? mom jokes?

[polamalubeast]

And Lamarr Woodley is out of the NFL if he was drafted to another team.:coffee::rolleyes:

[Steeldude]

And Lamarr Woodley is out of the NFL if he was drafted to another team.:coffee::rolleyes:

so why do you think he is out of the NFL if he was drafted by another team?

didn't you type this same message in the thread about rivers and BR? you are getting a little obsessed :grin:

[HometownGal]

Guys - I think you can all get your points across without getting personal.

[Chidi29]

EDIT: Nevermind

[steelerdude15]

EDIT: Nevermind
:chuckle: Chidi

[suitanim]

"I hate (Arians/Kordell/Woodley). (Arians/Woodley/Kordell) are overpaid. If you like (Arians/Kordell/Woodley) you are stupid. I'm smarter than you because I hate (Arians/Kordell/Woodley). If you say anything nice about (Arians/Kordell/Woodley), you're just a fanboy stooge."

Doesn't that really just about sum it all up?

[zulater]

"I hate (Arians/Kordell/Woodley). (Arians/Woodley/Kordell) are overpaid. If you like (Arians/Kordell/Woodley) you are stupid. I'm smarter than you because I hate (Arians/Kordell/Woodley). If you say anything nice about (Arians/Kordell/Woodley), you're just a fanboy stooge."

Doesn't that really just about sum it all up?

You need to get a Jason Gildon reference in there somewhere too.

[Steeldude]

it's amazing how obsessed people become with a person's opinion.

it's definitely 1997 all over again. it's only a matter of time before the death threats come...lmao.

funny how no one has called me racist. oh that's right, woodley isn't a QB so it wouldn't apply.:rolleyes3:

[tube517]

I don't know you guys keep bothering...

:chuckle:

Which thread is the longest? Ben's off season issues? Arians is the reason our pass defense sucks? Woodley overpaid? Jeff Reed and towel dispensers? James Harrisons' fines/slang term for british cigarettes? Ben vs Rivers? Rex Ryan's love of podiatry?

[zulater]

it's amazing how obsessed people become with a person's opinion.

it's definitely 1997 all over again. it's only a matter of time before the death threats come...lmao.

funny how no one has called me racist. oh that's right, woodley isn't a QB so it wouldn't apply.:rolleyes3:


Why the fuck would anyone threaten you? A little high on yourself there Dude. Honestly, none of us really take this that seriously:lol:

[polamalubeast]

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/Humor/Trollspray.jpg

[Devilsdancefloor]

please guys he has his opinions let him have his and you have yours the piling on is just over the top in this thread this is why i am closing it down