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steel9guy
10-16-2011, 01:31 PM
The guy did a great job last year and I'll give him that. This year coming into this game he's 6-9 and missed a critical field goal against Indy even though he made the 38 yard game winner. He scares me. I was one who thought we shoulda kept Reed. I know he struggled last year but he was clutch. I have a feeling that Suisham will be a problem in the future. I don't like the way he kicks and he looks like it gets to him sometimes. Just a thought but I don't want this guy kicking long term.

fansince'76
10-16-2011, 01:36 PM
I was one who thought we shoulda kept Reed. I know he struggled last year but he was clutch.

Reed sucked ass and was no longer anywhere near being clutch (see the horrible shank of a chip shot against NE last year for one example), which is why he was sent packing. There is a very good reason why Reed is currently unemployed. That being said, I'm quickly losing faith in Suisham as well.

X-Terminator
10-16-2011, 01:38 PM
He's been missing FGs that any NFL kicker should be making, too. I could understand if those misses were from 50+, but he should be reasonably expected to make a 46-yarder even at Heinz. I don't think he'll be kicking here long-term.

SteelerEmpire
10-16-2011, 01:39 PM
Hell yea he worries me extensively. Reed started to miss a lot either because he was losing it or was protesting because he couldn't have his way in certain matters. But yea, Suis is about a C+ or B- kicker. He can tackle, but how often is that needed by a kicker ? Yea, he scares me...

stillers4me
10-16-2011, 01:43 PM
He can tackle, but how often is that needed by a kicker ?

when your FG gets blocked, so apparantly alot.

SteelerEmpire
10-16-2011, 02:51 PM
Correction. This WHOLE team worries me...

Chidi29
10-16-2011, 02:59 PM
Eh, it's really tough to kick in the open end of the stadium. I'm not too concerned.

polamalubeast
10-16-2011, 03:00 PM
YES

kmsteelerwr15
10-16-2011, 03:02 PM
Yeah I worry especially kicking on the open end of Heinz Field

steeldevil
10-16-2011, 03:05 PM
Uh... yeah

SteelerEmpire
10-16-2011, 03:06 PM
Eh, it's really tough to kick in the open end of the stadium. I'm not too concerned.

Yep. Especially when you've been kicking there for the past 2-3 yrs...

X-Terminator
10-16-2011, 03:06 PM
Eh, it's really tough to kick in the open end of the stadium. I'm not too concerned.

So what was his excuse in Houston and Indy?

steel9guy
10-16-2011, 03:07 PM
Eh, it's really tough to kick in the open end of the stadium. I'm not too concerned.

It should be tough for opponents but not us. Reed kicked that end very well.

polamalubeast
10-16-2011, 03:09 PM
Suisham is one of the worst kicker in the nfl

SteelerFanInStl
10-16-2011, 03:12 PM
Reed sucked ass and was no longer anywhere near being clutch (see the horrible shank of a chip shot against NE last year for one example), which is why he was sent packing. There is a very good reason why Reed is currently unemployed. That being said, I'm quickly losing faith in Suisham as well.

Exactly! Reed deserved to get cut and Sushi was decent last year. This year he hasn't been good. It's time to bring some competition in and I'm not talking about Swayze.

Chidi29
10-16-2011, 03:14 PM
So what was his excuse in Houston and Indy?

Just bad kicks. It happens sometimes.

Chidi29
10-16-2011, 03:14 PM
Exactly! Reed deserved to get cut and Sushi was decent last year. This year he hasn't been good. It's time to bring some competition in and I'm not talking about Swayze.

What do you mean by competition? Have two kickers on the roster? Cut Suisham and bring in someone else?

SteelerFanInStl
10-16-2011, 03:28 PM
What do you mean by competition? Have two kickers on the roster? Cut Suisham and bring in someone else?

Do you trust Sushi with a game winning 46 yard FG? I certainly don't. He's 31st in the NFL in FG% this year.

Bring a couple of guys in and have a kickoff during the week. If he can't out kick them, then cut him.

He's been shanking stuff this year and his kickoffs suck too most of the time.

stillers4me
10-16-2011, 03:29 PM
Do you trust Sushi with a game winning 46 yard FG? I certainly don't. He's 31st in the NFL in FG% this year.
Nope.

Count Steeler
10-16-2011, 03:31 PM
No. Even though he is a Canadian, I do not trust him if the game is on the line. Blocked FG, and not good over 45 yards.

Chidi29
10-16-2011, 03:32 PM
Do you trust Sushi with a game winning 46 yard FG? I certainly don't. He's 31st in the NFL in FG% this year.

Bring a couple of guys in and have a kickoff during the week. If he can't out kick them, then cut him.

He's been shanking stuff this year and his kickoffs suck too most of the time.

I don't have an Adam Vinitari amount of trust in him but sure, I think he's capable of making it.

Bringing guys in practice isn't going to tell you a whole lot. Especially when your issue is the "clutch" factor. Can't tell how clutch you are unless you're in a game situation.

SteelerEmpire
10-16-2011, 03:39 PM
He's gearing up to cost the team a big game. I see it coming.

Devilsdancefloor
10-16-2011, 03:43 PM
the thing that reallllyyy worries me is it seems like we win a lot of games by 3 and if we cant trust the kicker we are in trouble and the O will start pressing and making mistakes!

Carolina Steelers
10-16-2011, 04:03 PM
Yes he worries me even on 30-40 ydrs those should be gimmes even at Heinz Field that one he missed the wind wasnt even blowing thats what the annoucers said. When we need a big kick i have a feeling he wont come through. Its not always the game winning FG's that worry me its every FG even in the 1st qtr every point matters against every team in the NFL

Burghfan58
10-16-2011, 04:21 PM
I get nervous every time he lines up. I don't even feel like extra points are automatic with him. He doesn't seem to exude much confidence to me.

Austin87
10-16-2011, 05:13 PM
Not a big Suisham fan. He did well last season, but he was well known for being inconsistent before we signed him.

Steeldude
10-16-2011, 06:47 PM
he starts off slow. just wait until the second half of the season:high5:

zulater
10-16-2011, 07:20 PM
He's middle of the pack as a fg kicker. But I'll give him credit for one thing, he's not afraid to stick his head in and make a tackle on a return. Got another one today. He's probably saved us at least 10 points with his tackling so far this season, so in the end it sorta cancel's out his mediocrity as a kicker? :heh:

Moose
10-16-2011, 07:22 PM
Yea, he's 'one' of my worries on the team. He's not that reliable 40yrds or so, which is why Tomlin doesn't try anything in the 45 yrd range. I agree with what was said earlier....he's going to miss a 30 -40 yrdr early in game that's going to come back and haunt us and cost us the game. Would I feel good with a tied game, 1 second left, and him kicking a 30 yrdr for win ......UGH, heart attack, and hell no !!!

st33lersguy
10-16-2011, 07:42 PM
It is difficult kicking a 46 yarder in the open end of the stadium, the offense should have put Suisam in a better position rather than committing two holding penalties and then throwing a 3 yard pass on 3rd & 11 with a defender so close to a defender.

fansince'76
10-16-2011, 07:46 PM
I don't have an Adam Vinitari amount of trust in him but sure, I think he's capable of making it.

Bringing guys in practice isn't going to tell you a whole lot. Especially when your issue is the "clutch" factor. Can't tell how clutch you are unless you're in a game situation.

Exactly. We're more than likely not going to get much better than Suisham (if at all) at this point. The best PKs in the business have jobs already. We need to finish more drives and score more TDs.

86WARD
10-16-2011, 07:52 PM
Yeah. HAte him. Zero confidence in him from outside 35.

steel striker
10-16-2011, 07:58 PM
Yes he does worry me because, I watched him miss several 30 kicks while he was a Redskin. Shaun was pretty solid for us last year and, I guess we will see what happens. Still it is a concern.

Moose
10-16-2011, 08:37 PM
Hey, I know.....just use him for 'fake' punts and let him throw the ball. LOL. You saw how Ben was throwing in the 4th quarter today didn't you ? hahahha

Shoes
10-16-2011, 08:37 PM
Exactly. We're more than likely not going to get much better than Suisham (if at all) at this point. The best PKs in the business have jobs already. We need to finish more drives and score more TDs.
I agree :chuckle:

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z211/vestkap/steelerkicker.jpg

steelerdude15
10-16-2011, 10:07 PM
:chuckle: Nice pic Shoes. I think we should address this in the offseason by looking for someone very young who we can have for years.

7willBheaven
10-16-2011, 11:25 PM
I agree :chuckle:

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z211/vestkap/steelerkicker.jpg

Just saw that pic and was coming here to post it hahah.

steelreserve
10-17-2011, 01:15 AM
He doesn't worry me as much as Peterson or Kris Brown, if that's what you mean.

He's not great. He'll do for now, but I really think we ought to keep our eyes open for someone better.

Butch
10-17-2011, 05:10 AM
Hell I worry every time he kicks off. How many times yesterday did he barely make the endzone??? If he kicks like that to a guy like Hester watch out!!!

venom
10-17-2011, 05:46 AM
Anything over 35 yards scare me - hope it doesnt bite us one day in the playoffs

stillers4me
10-17-2011, 05:49 AM
Anything over 35 yards scare me - hope it doesnt bite us one day in the playoffs

PLAYOFFS???????????????????

HometownGal
10-17-2011, 06:57 AM
If Sushi starts to make a habit out of missing the rest of the season - yes. At this point, NO. Some of the best kickers in the game have missed easier kicks - notably Ryan Longwell in last night's Bears/Vikes game. It happens to the best of 'em. Remember - we won yesterday's game by a FG so he did something right.

Geez you guys are quick to jump the gun. :doh:

polamalubeast
10-17-2011, 07:00 AM
Yeah. HAte him. Zero confidence in him from outside 15.

fixe

86WARD
10-17-2011, 08:43 AM
I agree :chuckle:

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z211/vestkap/steelerkicker.jpg

Awesome!!

SteelerFanInStl
10-17-2011, 09:56 AM
If Sushi starts to make a habit out of missing the rest of the season - yes. At this point, NO. Some of the best kickers in the game have missed easier kicks - notably Ryan Longwell in last night's Bears/Vikes game. It happens to the best of 'em. Remember - we won yesterday's game by a FG so he did something right.

Geez you guys are quick to jump the gun. :doh:

Sure, they all miss now and then but Sushi is 6/9 this year and that's terrible, especially since the bad weather hasn't even started yet. There was absolutely no wind yesterday when he shanked that one. No excuses.

SteelerFanInStl
10-17-2011, 09:58 AM
:chuckle: Nice pic Shoes. I think we should address this in the offseason by looking for someone very young who we can have for years.

That should've been done this past offseason but all we did was bring in Swayze Waters.

Sushi kicked well for us last year so he was bound to come back down to his normal self this year.

suitanim
10-17-2011, 10:03 AM
I expect him to lose us a game this year.

Just hope it's not a playoff game...

zulater
10-17-2011, 12:24 PM
The flags were still on that fg attempt, he just hit it poorly.

Shoes
10-17-2011, 05:52 PM
PLAYOFFS???????????????????

:chuckle:

steel striker
10-18-2011, 03:09 PM
He doesn't worry me as much as Peterson or Kris Brown, if that's what you mean.

He's not great. He'll do for now, but I really think we ought to keep our eyes open for someone better.

That's for sure my god I remember the next game in Baltimore for Brown there was a sign Merry Kristmas! I'll never forget that.

polamalubeast
10-19-2011, 08:27 AM
I would not have made ​​a contract to Suisham if I were the Steelers.It is one of the worst kicker in the league and it really is not clutch since the beginning of his career.

I'm not happy when Suisham had signed a contract for 2011.

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/8763-Steelers-re-sign-Suisham

polamalubeast
10-19-2011, 08:29 AM
THIS


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/s/suishsha01/gamelog/post/

It is 6/11 in his career in the playoffs.

I have no confidence in him if the Steelers need a important field goal to win.

fansince'76
10-19-2011, 09:00 AM
I would not have made ​​a contract to Suisham if I were the Steelers.It is one of the worst kicker in the league and it really is not clutch since the beginning of his career.

I'm not happy when Suisham had signed a contract for 2011.

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/8763-Steelers-re-sign-Suisham

Who should we have signed? And please don't say Jeff Reed.

polamalubeast
10-19-2011, 09:04 AM
Who should we have signed? And please don't say Jeff Reed.

David Akers maybe

steeldevil
10-19-2011, 10:22 AM
I hold by breath every time he kicks a FG.... Even short ones. So yes, he does worry me.

He was good for us last year, this year not so much. Hopefully the Steelers can get someone better next year. Maybe draft someone in the 7th round.

fansince'76
10-19-2011, 10:50 AM
David Akers maybe

Completely forgot about Akers. Yeah, he'd be better than Suisham, definitely.

SteelerFanInStl
10-19-2011, 01:15 PM
Completely forgot about Akers. Yeah, he'd be better than Suisham, definitely.

I would've loved to have gotten Akers but I don't recall how much the Niners paid him. Probably more than what we would've been willing to give him.

Nadroj 20
10-19-2011, 01:52 PM
Maybe a little but I think he will be ok.

I'll be honest I like him a lot because he is a FOOTBALL player, its nice to see him making tackles on kickoffs :thumbsup:

Hes a gamer

Steeldude
10-19-2011, 03:17 PM
I would not have made ​​a contract to Suisham if I were the Steelers.It is one of the worst kicker in the league and it really is not clutch since the beginning of his career.

I'm not happy when Suisham had signed a contract for 2011.

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/8763-Steelers-re-sign-Suisham

you are such a hater.

polamalubeast
10-19-2011, 03:21 PM
you are such a hater.

troll alert

Count Steeler
10-19-2011, 04:11 PM
How about we just play offense for 60 minutes and we won't have to worry about a clutch field goal.

polamalubeast
10-30-2011, 06:43 PM
CUT

steeldevil
10-30-2011, 06:47 PM
Yeah he sucks 40+... Find someone better.

SteelerFanInStl
10-30-2011, 06:47 PM
F Sushi. He misses at the worst possible time (not that any miss is good).

The Duke
10-30-2011, 06:49 PM
I'd be willing to use a 4th on a kicker next season

but we're stuck with Sushi for now. Gulp....

polamalubeast
10-30-2011, 06:53 PM
I want Jeff Reed back!

7SteelGal43
10-30-2011, 07:08 PM
no

Mach1
10-30-2011, 07:15 PM
Sushi's going to cost us a game at some point this season.

fansince'76
10-30-2011, 07:17 PM
I want Jeff Reed back!

Uh, why? There's a reason he's unemployed right now...

SteelerFanInStl
10-30-2011, 07:20 PM
Uh, why? There's a reason he's unemployed right now...

Agreed. Reed is no better.

Psycho Ward 86
10-30-2011, 07:31 PM
Yeah he sucks 40+... Find someone better.

not an effective use of sarcasm. no one cares about kickers who can pip the ace at under 40 yards consistently...

steeldevil
10-30-2011, 07:35 PM
not an effective use of sarcasm. no one cares about kickers who can pip the ace at under 40 yards consistently...

Not being sarcastic. He sucks at FGs 40+. We should try to find someone better this week. I was being completely serious.

Count Steeler
10-30-2011, 07:37 PM
Yes. Is anyone else available? Probably not. Don't let him attempt anything over 40 yards. Might as well just go for it on 4th.

BlastFurnace
10-30-2011, 08:29 PM
He brings back memories of Kris Brown. Who else is out there right now though. The guy I wanted this off-season was David Akers.

steel9guy
10-30-2011, 11:21 PM
He missed another big kick today, Bring Back JEFF REED!

Jay
10-31-2011, 12:57 AM
He does worry me, money last year but has been inconsistant this season. Had he mad that last one the game would be out of reach, set up Tom Terrific for a heroic comeback. Thank God the defense kicked his teeth in for once.

fansince'76
10-31-2011, 01:31 AM
Bring Back JEFF REED!

Reed missed 2 FGs that lost the Chicago game in '09. He then proceeded to shank two kicks BADLY against the Patriots last season, one being about extra point distance. Reed sucks at this point even worse than Suisham. Again, that's why he is currently unemployed.

fansince'76
10-31-2011, 01:33 AM
Not being sarcastic. He sucks at FGs 40+. We should try to find someone better this week. I was being completely serious.

We won't find anyone better at this point.

SteelerFanInStl
10-31-2011, 08:52 AM
We won't find anyone better at this point.

Unfortunately you're probably right. We're stuck with him for this year.

steeldevil
10-31-2011, 09:54 AM
We won't find anyone better at this point.

And you are probably correct, but I think we should try.

steel9guy
10-31-2011, 11:12 AM
I'd have more faith in signing Gary Anderson right now than watching this Sushi guy screw up the rest of the season. He is going to cost us and I've been scared of this ever since we signed him. There's a reason he was cut three times and twice in the middle of the season. Should have been a warning flag when we signed him.

polamalubeast
10-31-2011, 11:32 AM
Jeff Reed was good with the 49ers last year.Seriously, you must cut Suisham before it is too late.

It is 7 / 12 in field goal from 30 yards or more.

fansince'76
10-31-2011, 11:38 AM
Jeff Reed was good with the 49ers last year.Seriously, you must cut Suisham before it is too late.

If Reed was still any good, he'd still be on a team.

SteelerEmpire
10-31-2011, 11:46 AM
Wow. I thought Swiss-ham cost us last nite... I got a feeling he's gonna cost us one (a game) before it's over. Hopefully not in the playoffs.

DEW Steelers
10-31-2011, 11:50 AM
He worries me - but at the end of the day, he IS a serviceable NFL kicker. Consistent enough. There are better out there, but there are worse.

Chidi29
10-31-2011, 12:13 PM
I've only eye-balled it so far, but Suisham seems to struggle primarily from the left hash. Pushes the ball too far to the right.

steelerrob
11-05-2011, 12:47 AM
He better have his "A" - game ready for tomorrow - if there's one game this season that will probably rely on FG's to win, it's this one.

Count Steeler
11-05-2011, 06:17 AM
I've only eye-balled it so far, but Suisham seems to struggle primarily from the left hash. Pushes the ball too far to the right.

That is my observation as well. They should try to set him up on the right hash every time.

suitanim
11-05-2011, 07:38 AM
We need to win every game by about 12, so that his inaccuracy isn't an issue...

cold-hard-steel
11-05-2011, 09:36 AM
The more we become productive at scoring 6 when we are in the red zone,the less we will have to rely on 3 in the clutch. Maybe Danny boy can kick fieldgoals.

stillers4me
11-05-2011, 09:44 AM
It is difficult kicking a 46 yarder in the open end of the stadium, the offense should have put Suisam in a better position rather than committing two holding penalties and then throwing a 3 yard pass on 3rd & 11 with a defender so close to a defender.

I get tired of hearing that "offense should do thier job better" excuse. There's a defense on the field that's also getting paid boocoo bucks to stop the offense and sometimes you just have to give them some credit. There's a reason why accurate FG kickers are worth their weight in gold. Their job is to win games when the game is on the line. Period.

polamalubeast
11-05-2011, 11:58 AM
I hope than suisham is on the hot seat

GBMelBlount
11-05-2011, 12:46 PM
Yup, he worries me. However trying to be positive I am probably twice as fired up when he actually makes one...

Count Steeler
11-05-2011, 12:47 PM
I get tired of hearing that "offense should do thier job better" excuse. There's a defense on the field that's also getting paid boocoo bucks to stop the offense and sometimes you just have to give them some credit. There's a reason why accurate FG kickers are worth their weight in gold. Their job is to win games when the game is on the line. Period.

:applaudit: Well said. A 46 yard field goal should not be a 50/50 proposition. A 56 yarder, maybe.

steeldevil
11-05-2011, 12:50 PM
At this point whenever he tries a 40+ yarder I assume its gonna be a miss.

From now on when we are in that range I hope we go for it or punt.

The Duke
11-05-2011, 01:14 PM
my only question is how did he play so good last regular season? Man made nice 40+ yard field goals. When the playoffs arrived he began showing his true colors, and this season even worse

hope we draft someone next year. I wanted Henery this year, but he hasn't been amazing either, or not exactly worth the 4th round pick

Count Steeler
11-05-2011, 01:27 PM
Wouldn't waste a draft pick on a kicker. Get Harrison and Woodley rushing the kicker in practice. If he makes the field goal, he doesn't get smacked. If he misses, then, well, you know.

polamalubeast
11-05-2011, 07:25 PM
I think than the problem of Suisham is too under the radar in the media and coaches.

It has better kicker than Suisham in the CFL(canada)

I never trusted this kicker, as it was a choking in Dallas and Washington.....I hope he will be fired soon.

steel9guy
11-05-2011, 09:53 PM
The open end excuses for sushi are bad. Did Reed have trouble at the open end? Nope. Should any Steelers kicker have trouble? Nope. Isn't the open end supposed to work to our favor? Yep. Jeff Reed!

steelerdude15
11-05-2011, 11:46 PM
my only question is how did he play so good last regular season? Man made nice 40+ yard field goals. When the playoffs arrived he began showing his true colors, and this season even worse

hope we draft someone next year. I wanted Henery this year, but he hasn't been amazing either, or not exactly worth the 4th round pick

I wouldn't draft a kicker or punter, but I think we should get one kicker and one punter as undrafted free agents next year to keep for a very long time.

BlacknGoldBabe
11-06-2011, 05:51 AM
The open end excuses for sushi are bad. Did Reed have trouble at the open end? Nope. Should any Steelers kicker have trouble? Nope. Isn't the open end supposed to work to our favor? Yep. Jeff Reed!

I'll second that emotion!

zulater
11-06-2011, 11:34 PM
Obviously Tomlin doesn't trust Sushi, otherwise he would have kicked to go up by 7.

fansince'76
11-06-2011, 11:36 PM
The open end excuses for sushi are bad. Did Reed have trouble at the open end? Nope. Should any Steelers kicker have trouble? Nope. Isn't the open end supposed to work to our favor? Yep. Jeff Reed!

Yes, he did, at the end. Did you NOT see those horrible shanks (one being about extra point distance) against New England that finally bought him a one-way bus ticket out of town? Reed lost it, and that's why he's out of the league entirely at this point. Suisham definitely needs to be replaced, but let go of Jeff Reed already.

X-Terminator
11-06-2011, 11:37 PM
Yeah, not many people are talking about this. Tomlin obviously has no confidence in him if he won't even try a makeable 47-yard FG. It still doesn't matter - it was probably the right decision, it just turned out horribly thanks to a D that decided to go to sleep on the final drive.

steelerdude15
11-06-2011, 11:37 PM
Yes, he did, at the end. Did you NOT see those horrible shanks (one being about extra point distance) against New England that finally bought him a one-way bus ticket out of town? Reed lost it, and that's why he's out of the league entirely at this point. Suisham definitely needs to be replaced, but let go of Jeff Reed already.

I hope we address this issue in the offseason with a rookie. I just want to start young and get someone who we'll keep for years.

SteelerEmpire
11-06-2011, 11:38 PM
Suisham is KILLING us ! His lack of range will play a part of this teams undoing in the normal order of things, unless we luck out, I don't see how he won't affect us.

zulater
11-06-2011, 11:40 PM
Yeah, not many people are talking about this. Tomlin obviously has no confidence in him if he won't even try a makeable 47-yard FG. It still doesn't matter - it was probably the right decision, it just turned out horribly thanks to a D that decided to go to sleep on the final drive.

I'm not saying it was a bad decision, all I'm saying is that you better upgrade that position in the offseason if that's how you fell about him. It's not as though those kickoffs of his are worth keeping him around for.

steeldevil
11-06-2011, 11:42 PM
Suisham has sucked 40+ all year, can't believe people are just now seeing it. Should have went for that 4th down to basically win it, but taking a delay of game and punting was the 2nd best option. Unfortunately the D SUCKED....

I would have thrown something if we would have went for that FG.... He def would have missed it....

zulater
11-07-2011, 12:01 AM
Where Suisham hurt us this game was his piss poor kickoff after we tied the score at 6-6.

X-Terminator
11-07-2011, 12:12 AM
I'm not saying it was a bad decision, all I'm saying is that you better upgrade that position in the offseason if that's how you fell about him. It's not as though those kickoffs of his are worth keeping him around for.

Well, you posted a quote from Max Starks saying the refs screwed up the play clock and caused the delay of game and the punt rather than the FG try. So we'll never know if he would have made it or not. I still want to see a new kicker here next year.

steel9guy
11-07-2011, 12:28 AM
I called this last year the day after we got rid of Reed.

fansince'76
11-07-2011, 12:31 AM
I called this last year the day after we got rid of Reed.

What? The defense shitting the bed ala 2009?

steel9guy
11-07-2011, 01:11 AM
What? The defense shitting the bed ala 2009?

I called that he would cost us. If Tomlin had any confidence in him there is NO way that we get the delay of game. Tomlin does not trust the guy. If we had a dependable kicker we wouldn't be in that situation.

fansince'76
11-07-2011, 01:28 AM
I called that he would cost us. If Tomlin had any confidence in him there is NO way that we get the delay of game. Tomlin does not trust the guy. If we had a dependable kicker we wouldn't be in that situation.

Um, what if we had another kicker and he missed it? A 47-yarder kicking into the open end of Heinz isn't exactly a gimme. Suisham didn't lose that game.

zulater
11-07-2011, 07:06 AM
Um, what if we had another kicker and he missed it? A 47-yarder kicking into the open end of Heinz isn't exactly a gimme. Suisham didn't lose that game.

Not there he didn't, but his shitty kickoffs certainly played a part in the loss. No depth or hang time and as a result two short fields that ended up with the Ravens scoring field goals. The kickoff that followed the Steelers second field goal near the end of the first half was especially galling. If we can get out of the half tied it might have been a different game.

We have to upgrade that position and get a legitimate kicker next season.

Carolina Steelers
11-07-2011, 07:26 AM
Not there he didn't, but his shitty kickoffs certainly played a part in the loss. No depth or hang time and as a result two short fields that ended up with the Ravens scoring field goals. The kickoff that followed the Steelers second field goal near the end of the first half was especially galling. If we can get out of the half tied it might have been a different game.

We have to upgrade that position and get a legitimate kicker next season.

I agree but Kickers are hard to come by via draft or free agency. But we need to address this position

polamalubeast
12-20-2011, 06:11 PM
I'm sorry, but this is not acceptable that Suisham is still with the team.The steelers are very stubborn to keep it.

I rarely criticize the steelers but I'm really tired of seeing the kicker with the team, especially when I see that he has several kicker in the NFL who succeeded many long field goal like the Raiders, Broncos, Packers, Bears, 49ers, etc.

He has several kickers in the CFL who is better than Suisham. I'm really tired.

GBMelBlount
12-20-2011, 06:22 PM
Only as a field goal kicker.

Otherwise no.

86WARD
12-20-2011, 06:23 PM
He's awful...far below average and if the game is on the line, no confidence...

polamalubeast
12-20-2011, 06:26 PM
He's awful...far below average and if the game is on the line, no confidence...

Kris Brown > Suisham

At least Brown can make the long field goal.

steelerdude15
12-20-2011, 06:28 PM
Yes, this needs to be addressed in the off season.

polamalubeast
12-20-2011, 06:30 PM
Yes, this needs to be addressed in the off season.


I would have never signed Suisham.

Kris Brown is even better than Suisham

smokin3000gt
12-20-2011, 07:40 PM
Reed sucked ass and was no longer anywhere near being clutch (see the horrible shank of a chip shot against NE last year for one example), which is why he was sent packing. There is a very good reason why Reed is currently unemployed. That being said, I'm quickly losing faith in Suisham as well.

True but if given the choice, I would feel more comfortable with Reed kicking it in..

Chidi29
12-20-2011, 07:42 PM
True but if given the choice, I would feel more comfortable with Reed kicking it in..

Until he misses a kick. Then the criticism comes pouring in, just as it did last year. Just as it does with any kicker.

smokin3000gt
12-20-2011, 07:58 PM
Until he misses a kick. Then the criticism comes pouring in, just as it did last year. Just as it does with any kicker.

Yea well with Suisham I feel we might as well flip a coin for the 3 points. Reed has missed a few too but he was more consistent IMO.

Chidi29
12-20-2011, 08:15 PM
Yea well with Suisham I feel we might as well flip a coin for the 3 points. Reed has missed a few too but he was more consistent IMO.

Suisham has had some tough kicks too. Yesterday was a perfect example. 48 and 51. We're forgetting he hit the 51 yarder, too in a big spot for us.

Psycho Ward 86
12-20-2011, 08:25 PM
Only as a field goal kicker.

Otherwise no.

lol. "ONLY?"

i guess kicking field goals is the least important duty of a kicker :lol:

NCSteeler
12-20-2011, 11:47 PM
I'm not going to waste my time reading this whole thread, way too many posts about a kicker. No way you keep head case Reed and yeah Suishi has got to go. No one including any of the coaches has faith in him outside a 35-40 yarder and there is no guarantees on those either. We will not win big close games until we replace him.

steelreserve
12-21-2011, 11:29 AM
I would have never signed Suisham.

Kris Brown is even better than Suisham

Have you been smoking crack? Kris Brown was terrible. He was making about 66% of his attempts when we let him go. He missed 14 field goals in a single year, for god's sake. Suisham is struggling right now, but he's still not approaching that level of awful.

Listen, I'm not sold on Sushi as the long-term answer either, but it's nowhere near the same. He's basically the definition of an average kicker in all respects. That's way better than the shit parade we had before Reed. Still worth trying to see if we can do better, because he's only average. But if we don't come up with a replacement this offseason, I don't think it's a full-on crisis.

BlastFurnace
12-21-2011, 11:39 AM
Reed was solid for the Steelers for many years. He was money. He lost it last year and when a kicker loses his confidence, it's over.

polamalubeast
12-21-2011, 11:42 AM
WORST KICKER IN THE NFL

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/kicking/sort/fieldGoalPct

steelreserve
12-21-2011, 12:11 PM
WORST KICKER IN THE NFL

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/kicking/sort/fieldGoalPct

Speaking of which, I wonder what Shayne Graham is doing right now? It doesn't look like he's on the list. Always wondered why we didn't go for him when we had the chance.

BlastFurnace
12-21-2011, 01:02 PM
Speaking of which, I wonder what Shayne Graham is doing right now? It doesn't look like he's on the list. Always wondered why we didn't go for him when we had the chance.

Ravens just signed him.

steelreserve
12-21-2011, 01:11 PM
Ravens just signed him.

Wow, signed him today, no less. Well, there goes that idea.

XxKnightxX
12-21-2011, 01:30 PM
No need for debate, he sucks . Kickers are supposed to make FGs , specifically in the big moments and theyre even more glorified in the playoffs. He didnt have the vote of confidence from Tomlin against the Ravens, he missed one in the Super Bowl, and he missed one with the shot at the Number 1 seed . Just with the hesitation and worry of Tomlin sending him out there shows that hes just a guy waiting to get cut. Check out some of those UDFA rookies, or work some out, Just dont ever sign that kid from Oregon in the future lol.

Iron Steeler
12-21-2011, 02:20 PM
No. would love to draft a K in 3rd or 4th . Power Kicker . What ever happened to swayze waters?

smokin3000gt
12-21-2011, 03:04 PM
Suisham has had some tough kicks too. Yesterday was a perfect example. 48 and 51. We're forgetting he hit the 51 yarder, too in a big spot for us.

Yes he made the 51 which is not an easy kick but I think I speak for most when I say I was more surprised that he made the one FG then I was when he missed the 48.


Reed was solid for the Steelers for many years. He was money. He lost it last year and when a kicker loses his confidence, it's over.

Did you see Suisham on the sidelines Monday night? He certainly didn't look confident to me. He looked lost/scared out there. I certainly don't think Reed is a top 10 kicker or anything and I'm definitely not a Reed lover but if I was coach and had them both sitting on the bench, Reed would get the nod to kick the ball before Suisham did.

Now, in all fairness.. if I was responsible for the well being paper towel dispensers, napkin holders, or anything else.. I would definitely feel more comfortable with Suisham on my side than Reed.

GBMelBlount
12-21-2011, 03:10 PM
Did you see Suisham on the sidelines Monday night? He certainly didn't look confident to me. He looked lost/scared out there.

You mean the "Norwood" look? Absolutely.

GBMelBlount
12-21-2011, 03:12 PM
Does a polar bear shit in the water? :yup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAypG65Hp-A

BlastFurnace
12-21-2011, 03:49 PM
Yes he made the 51 which is not an easy kick but I think I speak for most when I say I was more surprised that he made the one FG then I was when he missed the 48.



Did you see Suisham on the sidelines Monday night? He certainly didn't look confident to me. He looked lost/scared out there. I certainly don't think Reed is a top 10 kicker or anything and I'm definitely not a Reed lover but if I was coach and had them both sitting on the bench, Reed would get the nod to kick the ball before Suisham did.

Now, in all fairness.. if I was responsible for the well being paper towel dispensers, napkin holders, or anything else.. I would definitely feel more comfortable with Suisham on my side than Reed.

I was shocked that he made that 51 yarder and not surprised when he missed the 48 yarder.

I'd pick Reed every day of the week over Suisham...even right now.

NCSteeler
12-22-2011, 01:28 AM
He's 50% over forty yards, WOW. I thought he was bad, but damn that sucks.

steelreserve
12-22-2011, 11:24 AM
No. would love to draft a K in 3rd or 4th . Power Kicker . What ever happened to swayze waters?

I would assume whoever that is must be a porn star now.

86WARD
12-22-2011, 11:24 AM
Gotta be a better option out there...I'd take Vanderjagt over Suisham...lol.

GBMelBlount
12-22-2011, 11:33 AM
He's 50% over forty yards, WOW. I thought he was bad, but damn that sucks.

Yes, but on the bright side he has made 100% of half of his kicks over 40 yards!

NCSteeler
12-22-2011, 11:57 PM
No. would love to draft a K in 3rd or 4th . Power Kicker . What ever happened to swayze waters?

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